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﴿ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴾

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When does one begin saying "Ameen" behind the imam?

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The questioner : ... In the prayer, saying:
Ameen آمين
, the disagreement was ... the word:
Ameen آمين
?

The Shaykh : How? I did not hear the last sentence.

The questioner : How long is the duration of saying
Ameen آمين
in the prayer?

The Shaykh : In the congregation, as with any congregation, one makes a mistake by preceding the imam with
Ameen آمين
. The follower begins with
Ameen آمين
after the imam has begun it, meaning:
Ameen آمين
two beats,
Ameen آ
, not
Trustworthy أمين
;
Ameen آمين
, but you hear the imam say:
Ameen آ
, and you say:
Ameen آ
, whereas he has not yet taken a breath:
And not those who go astray. وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ
You have preceded him and said:
Ameen آمين
. This is a mistake; this contradicts the saying of the Messenger:
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin, for if anyone’s utterance of Amin synchronnises with that of the angles, he will be forgiven his past sins. إذا أمَّن الإمام فأمنوا ؛ فإنه مَن وافق تأمينه تأمين الملائكة غُفِرَ له ما تقدَّم من ذنبه
Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani)
; therefore, it is not permissible for the follower to say "Ameen" until the imam has started saying "Ameen." This is easily achieved by being attentive. However, when a person's mind is wandering and his mind is not with the imam's recitation, habit overcomes him and he precedes the imam with
Ameen آمين
. This involves clear persistence in sin; because the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) made the forgiveness of sins contingent upon not preceding the imam. This is a profit for him; meaning, a person lived the lifespan of Noah (peace be upon him) only to deserve the forgiveness of Allah, and the price would be a cheap one, but this is the favor of Allah, the favor of Allah,
And ever has the favor of Allah upon you been great. وَكَانَ فَضْلُ اللَّهِ عَلَيْكَ عَظِيمًا
[An-Nisa 4:113]
. But despite this, you find people heedless of this great virtue, they precede him and thus lose this virtue due to their contradiction of the imam,
The Imam is appointed to be followed. When he says Allahu Akbar, then say Allahu Akbar; when he bows, then bow; when he says Sami’ Allahu liman hamidah, then say Rabbana wa lakal-hamd; when he prostrates then prostrate; and if he prays sitting down then pray sitting down. إنما جُعِلَ الإمام ليُؤتمَّ به ؛ فإذا كبَّر فكبِّروا ، وإذا ركع فاركعوا ، وإذا قال : سمع الله لِمَن حمده ؛ فقولوا : ربنا ولك الحمد ، وإذا سجد فاسجدوا ، وإذا صلى قائمًا فصلوا قيامًا ، وإذا صلى قاعدًا فصلوا قعودًا أجمعين
Sunan Ibn Majah 1238Sahih (Darussalam)
; therefore, the imam must be followed even in what he errs in.

The questioner : Even in what he errs in?

The Shaykh : Do you see? I intended to tell you: even in what he errs in; so that you would repeat it to me.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : Even in what he errs in.

The questioner : So that I understand more from you.

The Shaykh : And I confirm to you: even in what he errs in. Do you believe in this or not?

The questioner : Of course ... I must believe.

The Shaykh : No, I intended "believe" in the sense of faith. I made a mistake with you just now. I meant: do you believe, meaning do you have faith in this matter before you hear me say this?

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : Even in what he errs in, I tell you.

The questioner : ... .
Source www.al-albany.com

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