Who is the one who uses the phrase "this is a straight hadith" for a hadith? Where does he get that from? Or what is his basis? And a hadith regarding 'Abd Allah al-Sa'd.
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Abu Malik: The issue is, I mean, this repetition of describing the hadith as straight or as being straight, or similar terms. This usage is based on what?
The Shaykh : He is quoting from the beginning here; he quotes from some of the imams, like al-Uqayli, who described 'Ali ibn al-Madini as saying that the Qur'an was created, so he attacks him from this angle. This Shaykh 'Abd Allah says: This does not necessitate attacking his hadith; as proof, he said—meaning al-Uqayli—about Ibn al-Madini that his hadith is straight.
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Abu Malik: It is a quotation, but he has a ruling on this hadith, on this man or that; I mean, it is not based on quotation, it is not a quotation from another, rather he says that the text is straight, and he always circles around this word.
The Shaykh : But here he is quoting specifically regarding 'Ali ibn al-Madini.
Abu Malik: ... I understood this, that he is quoting, but I mean, he generalized this description.
The Shaykh : We have mentioned this; this statement is not based on knowledge, rather it is his opinion...
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Abu Malik: Or some of the hadiths, it seems he places the one described by this, or the one spoken about, in contradiction; is that not so?
The Shaykh : And this is clear in his speech; because he says he looks at the text of the hadith, so if the text of the hadith is, I mean, acceptable, then his hadith is authentic and good, and if his hadith is rejected according to his mind or his knowledge at least, then his hadith will be weak.
'Abd Allah al-Sa'd - Cassette tape: But he does not reject the hadith because of... the hadith because of obscurity, except...
The questioner : Sometimes he accepts it and sometimes he does not accept it!
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The Shaykh : For example, a man says that so-and-so, the narrator, was weakened by Ibn al-Madini, and yet Imam Muslim authenticated it. Well, what is the problem with that? Does this mean that Imam Muslim weakened this, yet he authenticated his hadith? I say this is an example of what he says.
Abu Malik: Yes, that is right.
The Shaykh : For example, another man, similar to this in ignorance, says...
Now the path has become one.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : He says that whoever is called weak, his hadith is authenticated; as proof, so-and-so said about him, Ibn Ma'in: weak, and Muslim narrated from him in his "Sahih," so he authenticated for him; therefore, it does not follow from weakening a man that his hadith is weak.
The questioner: This.
The Shaykh : Does a person say this?! This is his example, this is his example exactly.
The questioner : Why is there agreement—for example—in vindication or in...? Most of this is in this manner, okay? Speech...
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The Shaykh : ... among the trustworthy, a man is vouched for by a narration in a chain he has that contains one accused of lying, and there is a fabricator, and he says in the hadith: very denounced, this is among the trustworthy, he says he does not narrate in the trustworthy unless the man's hadith is not denounced.
Abu Malik: How...
The Shaykh : He is not a student, he is a student of theoretical rules, he does not understand them.
The questioner : Ibn Jibrin... this is what they say, from Najd, this is Ibn Jibrin.
The Shaykh : I do not know about him.
Abu Malik: I have heard speech about him and that he is from the scholars.
The Shaykh : From the Committee of Senior Scholars.
The questioner : From the Committee, is he?
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner : ... I will publish it in book form soon... and the fatwas...
Abu Malik: ... Ibn Jibrin... the Imam of the Call, I mean, Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab.
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The Shaykh : He said—look at the confusion in the speech—he said many of them, whoever goes to weakening the hadith of the unknown, how do you judge it as weak while it is unknown? Listen, my brother, he says that the narrator of the weak hadith is unknown, so if he is unknown, his hadith is weak, not that the narrator is weak, the narrator is unknown, he says, okay, but this unknown narrator, if he narrates a hadith, what will his hadith be? It will be weak, he says how do you combine his saying: unknown and weak? My brother, he does not say about the narrator unknown weak; no.
Abu Malik: He may not be weak in himself.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, Glory be to Allah!
Another questioner : O our Shaykh, how do you want to authenticate it while it is weak? I mean, how do we authenticate the hadith, or do you want to improve it now.
Abu Malik: And it is unknown.
Another questioner : And it is unknown? ... Excuse me, and it is unknown.
The Shaykh : This is his speech.
The questioner : Yes, if from the same path.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : His path.
The Shaykh : He is quoting from the beginning here; he quotes from some of the imams, like al-Uqayli, who described 'Ali ibn al-Madini as saying that the Qur'an was created, so he attacks him from this angle. This Shaykh 'Abd Allah says: This does not necessitate attacking his hadith; as proof, he said—meaning al-Uqayli—about Ibn al-Madini that his hadith is straight.
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Abu Malik: It is a quotation, but he has a ruling on this hadith, on this man or that; I mean, it is not based on quotation, it is not a quotation from another, rather he says that the text is straight, and he always circles around this word.
The Shaykh : But here he is quoting specifically regarding 'Ali ibn al-Madini.
Abu Malik: ... I understood this, that he is quoting, but I mean, he generalized this description.
The Shaykh : We have mentioned this; this statement is not based on knowledge, rather it is his opinion...
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Abu Malik: Or some of the hadiths, it seems he places the one described by this, or the one spoken about, in contradiction; is that not so?
The Shaykh : And this is clear in his speech; because he says he looks at the text of the hadith, so if the text of the hadith is, I mean, acceptable, then his hadith is authentic and good, and if his hadith is rejected according to his mind or his knowledge at least, then his hadith will be weak.
'Abd Allah al-Sa'd - Cassette tape: But he does not reject the hadith because of... the hadith because of obscurity, except...
The questioner : Sometimes he accepts it and sometimes he does not accept it!
...
The Shaykh : For example, a man says that so-and-so, the narrator, was weakened by Ibn al-Madini, and yet Imam Muslim authenticated it. Well, what is the problem with that? Does this mean that Imam Muslim weakened this, yet he authenticated his hadith? I say this is an example of what he says.
Abu Malik: Yes, that is right.
The Shaykh : For example, another man, similar to this in ignorance, says...
Now the path has become one.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : He says that whoever is called weak, his hadith is authenticated; as proof, so-and-so said about him, Ibn Ma'in: weak, and Muslim narrated from him in his "Sahih," so he authenticated for him; therefore, it does not follow from weakening a man that his hadith is weak.
The questioner: This.
The Shaykh : Does a person say this?! This is his example, this is his example exactly.
The questioner : Why is there agreement—for example—in vindication or in...? Most of this is in this manner, okay? Speech...
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The Shaykh : ... among the trustworthy, a man is vouched for by a narration in a chain he has that contains one accused of lying, and there is a fabricator, and he says in the hadith: very denounced, this is among the trustworthy, he says he does not narrate in the trustworthy unless the man's hadith is not denounced.
Abu Malik: How...
The Shaykh : He is not a student, he is a student of theoretical rules, he does not understand them.
The questioner : Ibn Jibrin... this is what they say, from Najd, this is Ibn Jibrin.
The Shaykh : I do not know about him.
Abu Malik: I have heard speech about him and that he is from the scholars.
The Shaykh : From the Committee of Senior Scholars.
The questioner : From the Committee, is he?
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner : ... I will publish it in book form soon... and the fatwas...
Abu Malik: ... Ibn Jibrin... the Imam of the Call, I mean, Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab.
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The Shaykh : He said—look at the confusion in the speech—he said many of them, whoever goes to weakening the hadith of the unknown, how do you judge it as weak while it is unknown? Listen, my brother, he says that the narrator of the weak hadith is unknown, so if he is unknown, his hadith is weak, not that the narrator is weak, the narrator is unknown, he says, okay, but this unknown narrator, if he narrates a hadith, what will his hadith be? It will be weak, he says how do you combine his saying: unknown and weak? My brother, he does not say about the narrator unknown weak; no.
Abu Malik: He may not be weak in himself.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, Glory be to Allah!
Another questioner : O our Shaykh, how do you want to authenticate it while it is weak? I mean, how do we authenticate the hadith, or do you want to improve it now.
Abu Malik: And it is unknown.
Another questioner : And it is unknown? ... Excuse me, and it is unknown.
The Shaykh : This is his speech.
The questioner : Yes, if from the same path.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : His path.
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