Who is the one who uses the phrase "this is a straight hadith" for a hadith? Where does he get that from, or what is his basis?
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Abu Malik: The issue is, I mean, this repetition of describing the hadith as straight or upright or similar terms. What is this usage based on?
The Shaykh : He is quoting from the beginning here, quoting from some of the imams like al-Uqayli, who described 'Ali ibn al-Madini as saying that the Qur'an was created, so he criticizes him from this angle. This Shaykh Abdullah says that this does not necessitate criticizing his hadith, as evidenced by the fact that al-Uqayli said of al-Madini that his hadith is straight.
Abu Malik: It is a quotation, but he has a ruling on this hadith, on this man or that man, meaning it is based on his own judgment, not on a quotation from others. Rather, he says that the straightness of the text always revolves around this word.
The Shaykh : But here he is quoting specifically regarding 'Ali ibn al-Madini.
Abu Malik: ... I understood this to mean that he is quoting, but I mean, he generalizes this description.
The Shaykh : This is what we have narrated... the matter is not based on knowledge, rather this is his opinion...
Abu Malik: Or some of the hadiths, as if he places the one described by this, or the one being spoken about, in a contradiction, is that not so?
The Shaykh : And this is clear in his speech, because he says he looks at the text of the hadith, and if the text of the hadith is acceptable, then the hadith is authentic and good, and if his hadith is rejected by his intellect or knowledge, at least, then his hadith will be weak.
The questioner : But he does not reject the hadith for a reason, the hadith for a reason of ignorance, except.
The questioner : Sometimes he accepts it and sometimes he does not accept it.
The Shaykh : Like the one who says that so-and-so, the narrator, was weakened by Ibn al-Madini, and yet Imam Muslim authenticated it. Well, what is the problem with this? Does it mean that Imam Muslim weakened it, and yet he authenticated his hadith? I say this is like the speech he is saying.
Abu Malik: Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Like another man who is similar to him in ignorance, he says, this path has become one.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : He says that if someone is called weak, then his hadith is authenticated, as evidenced by the fact that so-and-so, Ibn Ma'in said of him that he is weak, and Muslim narrated from him in his Sahih, so he authenticated for him. Thus, it does not follow from weakening a man that he is weak.
The questioner : this
The Shaykh : This is what a person says, this is like him, this is exactly like him.
The questioner : In derivation, for example, in vindication or in agreement, most of this is on this method, right? Speech...
The Shaykh : ... the trustworthy ones... he vouches for him by narrating a chain in which there is one accused of lying and one who fabricates, so he says in the hadith that it is very denounced, as in the case of the trustworthy ones. He says he does not narrate in the trustworthy ones unless the man's hadith is not denounced.
Abu Malik: How...
The Shaykh : He is not a student who studies theoretical rules, he does not understand them.
The questioner : And Ibn Jibrin... this is the one they are talking about, from Najd, this is Ibn Jibrin.
The Shaykh : I do not know about him.
Abu Malik: Regarding him, we have heard that he is one of the scholars.
The Shaykh : From the Committee of Senior Scholars.
The questioner : ... is he?
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner: ... I will publish it in writing soon... and the fatwas...
Abu Malik: ... Ibn Jibrin... the Imam of Da'wah, meaning Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab.
The Shaykh : He said, look, there is chaos in the speech. He said many of them go to weakening the hadith of the unknown. How do you judge it as weak when it is unknown? My brother, he says that the narrator of the weak hadith is unknown, so if he is unknown, then his hadith is weak. It is not that the narrator is weak, the narrator is unknown. He says, yes, but this unknown narrator, if he narrates a hadith, what will his hadith be? It will be weak. He says how do you combine his saying "unknown" with "weak"? My brother, he does not say of the narrator "unknown" and "weak," no.
Abu Malik: He may not be weak in himself.
The Shaykh : Right, yes, glory be to Allah.
Another questioner: ... our Shaykh... you authenticate it and it is weak, meaning how do we authenticate the hadith or improve it?
Abu Malik: And it is unknown.
Another questioner: And... excuse me, and it is unknown.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is his speech.
The questioner : A rule from the same path.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.
Abu Malik: His path, you said, our Shaykh, al-Dhahabi, and then you were silent before this.
The Shaykh : Yes, al-Dhahabi in his book "Al-Kashif"
The Shaykh : He is quoting from the beginning here, quoting from some of the imams like al-Uqayli, who described 'Ali ibn al-Madini as saying that the Qur'an was created, so he criticizes him from this angle. This Shaykh Abdullah says that this does not necessitate criticizing his hadith, as evidenced by the fact that al-Uqayli said of al-Madini that his hadith is straight.
Abu Malik: It is a quotation, but he has a ruling on this hadith, on this man or that man, meaning it is based on his own judgment, not on a quotation from others. Rather, he says that the straightness of the text always revolves around this word.
The Shaykh : But here he is quoting specifically regarding 'Ali ibn al-Madini.
Abu Malik: ... I understood this to mean that he is quoting, but I mean, he generalizes this description.
The Shaykh : This is what we have narrated... the matter is not based on knowledge, rather this is his opinion...
Abu Malik: Or some of the hadiths, as if he places the one described by this, or the one being spoken about, in a contradiction, is that not so?
The Shaykh : And this is clear in his speech, because he says he looks at the text of the hadith, and if the text of the hadith is acceptable, then the hadith is authentic and good, and if his hadith is rejected by his intellect or knowledge, at least, then his hadith will be weak.
The questioner : But he does not reject the hadith for a reason, the hadith for a reason of ignorance, except.
The questioner : Sometimes he accepts it and sometimes he does not accept it.
The Shaykh : Like the one who says that so-and-so, the narrator, was weakened by Ibn al-Madini, and yet Imam Muslim authenticated it. Well, what is the problem with this? Does it mean that Imam Muslim weakened it, and yet he authenticated his hadith? I say this is like the speech he is saying.
Abu Malik: Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Like another man who is similar to him in ignorance, he says, this path has become one.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : He says that if someone is called weak, then his hadith is authenticated, as evidenced by the fact that so-and-so, Ibn Ma'in said of him that he is weak, and Muslim narrated from him in his Sahih, so he authenticated for him. Thus, it does not follow from weakening a man that he is weak.
The questioner : this
The Shaykh : This is what a person says, this is like him, this is exactly like him.
The questioner : In derivation, for example, in vindication or in agreement, most of this is on this method, right? Speech...
The Shaykh : ... the trustworthy ones... he vouches for him by narrating a chain in which there is one accused of lying and one who fabricates, so he says in the hadith that it is very denounced, as in the case of the trustworthy ones. He says he does not narrate in the trustworthy ones unless the man's hadith is not denounced.
Abu Malik: How...
The Shaykh : He is not a student who studies theoretical rules, he does not understand them.
The questioner : And Ibn Jibrin... this is the one they are talking about, from Najd, this is Ibn Jibrin.
The Shaykh : I do not know about him.
Abu Malik: Regarding him, we have heard that he is one of the scholars.
The Shaykh : From the Committee of Senior Scholars.
The questioner : ... is he?
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner: ... I will publish it in writing soon... and the fatwas...
Abu Malik: ... Ibn Jibrin... the Imam of Da'wah, meaning Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab.
The Shaykh : He said, look, there is chaos in the speech. He said many of them go to weakening the hadith of the unknown. How do you judge it as weak when it is unknown? My brother, he says that the narrator of the weak hadith is unknown, so if he is unknown, then his hadith is weak. It is not that the narrator is weak, the narrator is unknown. He says, yes, but this unknown narrator, if he narrates a hadith, what will his hadith be? It will be weak. He says how do you combine his saying "unknown" with "weak"? My brother, he does not say of the narrator "unknown" and "weak," no.
Abu Malik: He may not be weak in himself.
The Shaykh : Right, yes, glory be to Allah.
Another questioner: ... our Shaykh... you authenticate it and it is weak, meaning how do we authenticate the hadith or improve it?
Abu Malik: And it is unknown.
Another questioner: And... excuse me, and it is unknown.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is his speech.
The questioner : A rule from the same path.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.
Abu Malik: His path, you said, our Shaykh, al-Dhahabi, and then you were silent before this.
The Shaykh : Yes, al-Dhahabi in his book "Al-Kashif"