What is the authenticity of the hadith: The hadith of Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be pleased with both of them), who said:
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The questioner: Regarding the hadith about memorizing the Qur'an that is mentioned in ... in the book of ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: ... he recites the supplication ... .
The Shaykh: No.
Eid Abbasi: What is the hadith of 'Ali in which he complained that the Qur'an slips from me?!
The Shaykh: Yes, this is a denounced narration.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: And some of the early imams erred regarding it; al-Hakim said in "al-Mustadrak" that he narrated it in his "Mustadrak" and graded it authentic, but when the critic al-Dhahabi al-Dimashqi looked at it, he said: "The chain is clean, but the text is denounced." I was amazed at how he judged its chain to be clean when it contains the *ina'ah* (concealed narration) of Ibn Jurayj, who is the one who says in his biography in his famous book "Mizan al-I'tidal fi Naqd al-Rijal" that he narrates from weak people and then conceals them; that is, he drops them from the chain and narrates from those above them. He said regarding al-Dhahabi: "If he did not explicitly state the narration in his hadith; that is, if he did not say in it 'narrated to me so-and-so,' then it is not proof, but if he said: 'from so-and-so,' then it is not proof." And he said the same about Ibn Jurayj = -- and peace be upon you -- = in the hadith about memorizing the Qur'an.
Come forward, our brothers, come forward.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
So Ibn Jurayj in this hadith used *ina'ah* and did not explicitly state the narration, which aligns with some of al-Dhahabi's critique when he said that the text is denounced. So the defect that was found in this chain and was not noticed for its own sake there in his commentary on "al-Mustadrak," but he pointed to it in a general way in the biography of Ibn Jurayj; therefore, the hadith is not authentic, neither in terms of its chain nor in terms of its text.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Because, I mean, that a person, merely by supplication, would become able to memorize the Qur'an for which he strives day and night and which slips from his chest, and he would become able to memorize it. If that were the case, every person, especially like our case, who is in need of memorizing the Qur'an, would pray this prayer and supplicate with this supplication, and then he would memorize the Qur'an and be at ease.
Eid Abbasi : ... .
The Shaykh: Perhaps there is a long hadith in it, perhaps there are other things I do not recall.
Please proceed.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: ... he recites the supplication ... .
The Shaykh: No.
Eid Abbasi: What is the hadith of 'Ali in which he complained that the Qur'an slips from me?!
The Shaykh: Yes, this is a denounced narration.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: And some of the early imams erred regarding it; al-Hakim said in "al-Mustadrak" that he narrated it in his "Mustadrak" and graded it authentic, but when the critic al-Dhahabi al-Dimashqi looked at it, he said: "The chain is clean, but the text is denounced." I was amazed at how he judged its chain to be clean when it contains the *ina'ah* (concealed narration) of Ibn Jurayj, who is the one who says in his biography in his famous book "Mizan al-I'tidal fi Naqd al-Rijal" that he narrates from weak people and then conceals them; that is, he drops them from the chain and narrates from those above them. He said regarding al-Dhahabi: "If he did not explicitly state the narration in his hadith; that is, if he did not say in it 'narrated to me so-and-so,' then it is not proof, but if he said: 'from so-and-so,' then it is not proof." And he said the same about Ibn Jurayj = -- and peace be upon you -- = in the hadith about memorizing the Qur'an.
Come forward, our brothers, come forward.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
So Ibn Jurayj in this hadith used *ina'ah* and did not explicitly state the narration, which aligns with some of al-Dhahabi's critique when he said that the text is denounced. So the defect that was found in this chain and was not noticed for its own sake there in his commentary on "al-Mustadrak," but he pointed to it in a general way in the biography of Ibn Jurayj; therefore, the hadith is not authentic, neither in terms of its chain nor in terms of its text.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Because, I mean, that a person, merely by supplication, would become able to memorize the Qur'an for which he strives day and night and which slips from his chest, and he would become able to memorize it. If that were the case, every person, especially like our case, who is in need of memorizing the Qur'an, would pray this prayer and supplicate with this supplication, and then he would memorize the Qur'an and be at ease.
Eid Abbasi : ... .
The Shaykh: Perhaps there is a long hadith in it, perhaps there are other things I do not recall.
Please proceed.
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