The discussion of issues related to prayer, including the ruling on the prayer of the followers if the imam prays with them while in a state of ritual impurity
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Eid Abbasi : I say that in our situation, they were not in the state of ... praying.
The Shaykh : No, because I invalidated my prayer.
Eid Abbasi : 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him), when he said.
Another questioner : How did you invalidate your prayer?
Eid Abbasi : And it was mentioned that he prayed ... while in a state of ritual impurity, so he stopped and did not order the people to repeat it ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, let us keep your neighbor busy for a while, he is sleepy; what is your opinion of what your companion says?
Eid Abbasi : ... .
Another questioner : ... .
Eid Abbasi : ... .
The Shaykh : So what do they do?
Eid Abbasi : They ... their prayer was sufficient.
Another questioner : How are you, Professor?
The Shaykh : Welcome, and upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings, welcome, may Allah keep you safe.
Eid Abbasi : Then, if we had greeted at the end of the two [rak'ahs], I would have greeted with ... and then we prayed Maghrib, we messed up the order, is that how it is?
The Shaykh : It is not a mess with the order, we now intended 'Isha' and we prayed Maghrib.
Eid Abbasi : This is when ... with them ... .
Another questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : Welcome, and upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
Another questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings, how are you? How is your health? Welcome, may Allah keep you safe.
Eid Abbasi : When I greeted and they recited the dhikr, if I had remained reciting the dhikr ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, but I did not remember, when they recited the dhikr for me I remembered that they meant = -- I do not want -- = they meant Maghrib, a reminder about Maghrib, so when I came up I kept consulting my mind; whether I intended Maghrib or 'Isha'? So I finally remembered that I intended 'Isha'.
Eid Abbasi : Okay, if we assume another situation; a person forgot that he did not pray Maghrib, and he intended 'Isha' and prayed it, then he prays Maghrib after it, meaning is this valid?
The Shaykh : ... .
Eid Abbasi : Does he have to repeat it?
The Shaykh : Because it is like the one who prayed a prayer before its time, or after its time.
The questioner : Does he have to repeat the prayer?
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, he has to repeat the prayer that we ruled to be defective, in the end he has to pray two prayers; meaning after this prayer.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : It was ruled that it preceded its sister, which is the Maghrib prayer, it was ruled invalid; so he must pray Maghrib first, then follow it with 'Isha'.
Eid Abbasi : Even if in reality the time for both had entered?
The Shaykh : Yes; because the order is obligatory ... the order.
The questioner : Meaning they have to repeat it, all those who were following ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, this is what we were discussing or the professor was discussing, so it appears that if the imam's prayer is wrong, he repeats it, but the followers do not repeat it, and this is after the imam finishes the prayer, and the error is discovered after he is done with the prayer, but if the error is discovered to him during the prayer, then the ruling becomes different.
Eid Abbasi : Depending on the situation.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : The prayer became defective, meaning.
The Shaykh : No, because I invalidated my prayer.
Eid Abbasi : 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him), when he said.
Another questioner : How did you invalidate your prayer?
Eid Abbasi : And it was mentioned that he prayed ... while in a state of ritual impurity, so he stopped and did not order the people to repeat it ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, let us keep your neighbor busy for a while, he is sleepy; what is your opinion of what your companion says?
Eid Abbasi : ... .
Another questioner : ... .
Eid Abbasi : ... .
The Shaykh : So what do they do?
Eid Abbasi : They ... their prayer was sufficient.
Another questioner : How are you, Professor?
The Shaykh : Welcome, and upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings, welcome, may Allah keep you safe.
Eid Abbasi : Then, if we had greeted at the end of the two [rak'ahs], I would have greeted with ... and then we prayed Maghrib, we messed up the order, is that how it is?
The Shaykh : It is not a mess with the order, we now intended 'Isha' and we prayed Maghrib.
Eid Abbasi : This is when ... with them ... .
Another questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : Welcome, and upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
Another questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings, how are you? How is your health? Welcome, may Allah keep you safe.
Eid Abbasi : When I greeted and they recited the dhikr, if I had remained reciting the dhikr ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, but I did not remember, when they recited the dhikr for me I remembered that they meant = -- I do not want -- = they meant Maghrib, a reminder about Maghrib, so when I came up I kept consulting my mind; whether I intended Maghrib or 'Isha'? So I finally remembered that I intended 'Isha'.
Eid Abbasi : Okay, if we assume another situation; a person forgot that he did not pray Maghrib, and he intended 'Isha' and prayed it, then he prays Maghrib after it, meaning is this valid?
The Shaykh : ... .
Eid Abbasi : Does he have to repeat it?
The Shaykh : Because it is like the one who prayed a prayer before its time, or after its time.
The questioner : Does he have to repeat the prayer?
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, he has to repeat the prayer that we ruled to be defective, in the end he has to pray two prayers; meaning after this prayer.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : It was ruled that it preceded its sister, which is the Maghrib prayer, it was ruled invalid; so he must pray Maghrib first, then follow it with 'Isha'.
Eid Abbasi : Even if in reality the time for both had entered?
The Shaykh : Yes; because the order is obligatory ... the order.
The questioner : Meaning they have to repeat it, all those who were following ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, this is what we were discussing or the professor was discussing, so it appears that if the imam's prayer is wrong, he repeats it, but the followers do not repeat it, and this is after the imam finishes the prayer, and the error is discovered after he is done with the prayer, but if the error is discovered to him during the prayer, then the ruling becomes different.
Eid Abbasi : Depending on the situation.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : The prayer became defective, meaning.
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