Discussion on the verification of the wording of the hadith (Do not raise your stick against your family, and fear them for the sake of Allah)
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The Shaykh : ... .
Al-Halabi : Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : This is the ninth chapter of the original *Al-Adab al-Mufrad*. Good.
Al-Halabi : ...
The Shaykh : At the end of the hadith:.
Al-Halabi : Ah, look, glory be to Allah, Shaykh, your categorization is not what we are looking for.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : Because it is advice.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : Yes.
The Shaykh : Good, so what is the main point of the entire review?
Al-Halabi : The point, Shaykh, is that what is in my mind is now confirmed.
The Shaykh: And that is...
Al-Halabi : That the original was like this:.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
Al-Halabi : So you called, Shaykh, and I told you that it was changed from "upon" to "from."
The Shaykh : Yes, so what is required of me now?
Al-Halabi Shaykh, do you have a copy of our original, which is *Sahih Jama' al-Adab*?
The Shaykh : No, you did not take it, did you?
Al-Halabi : Yes, we took it. Correct. Now, glory be to Allah, I want to see if what we changed remained as "upon" or became "from."
The Shaykh : Good, are you sure you changed it?
Al-Halabi : Ah, a change was made based on your request, but was the change to "upon" or to "from"?
The Shaykh: No.
Al-Halabi : I do not know exactly. Now I am in doubt.
The Shaykh : The change would only be from "upon" to "from."
Al-Halabi : Correct, it must be so.
The Shaykh : And this is what appears to be the case.
Al-Halabi : And this is what agrees with the texts we discussed.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : The ones found in *Tahdhib al-Athar*.
The Shaykh : Good, so do you have the latest copy of *Sahih al-Adab*?
Al-Halabi : No, it is in the office, of course.
The Shaykh : In the office. Good, so you will review it, and if Allah wills, we will see what Allah creates.
Al-Halabi : Good, do you think adding *Tahdhib al-Athar* as a footnote or something is necessary, or is there no need?
The Shaykh : No, there is no need.
Al-Halabi : There is no need for that.
The Shaykh: No.
Al-Halabi : Ah, good, then.
The Shaykh : Because *Tahdhib al-Athar* has corroborating narrations for this passage, but as for the hadith in its entirety, I have not seen it. Did you see it?
Al-Halabi : No, no, I meant regarding this passage, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The passage, yes.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, there are many hadiths that are explicit in the wording "from" and not "upon," is that clear?
Al-Halabi : Yes, it is clear, Shaykh. This part is found in *Tahdhib al-Athar*.
The Shaykh : From the hadith of Abu al-Darda'.
Al-Halabi : From the hadith of Abu al-Darda', yes.
The Shaykh : ... and where.
Al-Halabi : It is number... well, the numbers will be different. It will be: "Muhammad ibn al-Muthanna narrated to us, saying: Ibn Abi 'Ubayd narrated to us from Rashid Abu Muhammad from Shahr from Umm al-Darda' from Abu al-Darda' who said: My close friend Abu al-Qasim advised me and said:."
The Shaykh : Yes, this is the number I have. I have it as 884.
Al-Halabi : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is how it is. This is what appears to be the case.
Al-Halabi : Yes.
The Shaykh : It is clear that the intended phrase is to frighten them.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : And this is the explanation of "frighten them for the sake of Allah."
Al-Halabi : Yes.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : So, I will go down to the office now, if Allah wills. I am in the process of going down.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Al-Halabi : So review this point, the hadith number eighteen in the original.
The Shaykh : Fine, may Allah reward you with good.
Al-Halabi : May Allah bless you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : But take advantage of the opportunity.
Al-Halabi : Please, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Note it down for me.
Al-Halabi : I agree with you.
The Shaykh : Because here, when I cited *Al-Arwah* in my handwriting.
Al-Halabi: Ah.
The Shaykh : There are two numbers.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : 2086 and 2026.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : If the printed number is 2026, then that is the correct one. If it is 2080, then it should be corrected.
Al-Halabi : I mean, the same... the same number, I mean the same hadith.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, the same long hadith of Abu al-Darda' that is in *Al-Adab al-Mufrad*.
Al-Halabi : Good, I will review it today, with the permission of Allah, and call you.
The Shaykh : I noted the two numbers.
Al-Halabi : Of course, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : And that the correct one is the smaller number.
Al-Halabi : Yes, I wrote them correctly here, and here it is an error.
The Shaykh : Yes, he is good.
Al-Halabi : May Allah preserve you, Professor.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
Al-Halabi : And you as well, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Peace be upon you.
Al-Halabi : Peace and mercy of Allah be upon you.
Al-Halabi : Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : This is the ninth chapter of the original *Al-Adab al-Mufrad*. Good.
Al-Halabi : ...
The Shaykh : At the end of the hadith:
Do not raise your stick against your family, and fear them for the sake of Allah
ولا ترفع عصاك على أهلك ، وأخِفْهم في اللهAl-Halabi : Ah, look, glory be to Allah, Shaykh, your categorization is not what we are looking for.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : Because it is advice.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : Yes.
The Shaykh : Good, so what is the main point of the entire review?
Al-Halabi : The point, Shaykh, is that what is in my mind is now confirmed.
The Shaykh: And that is...
Al-Halabi : That the original was like this:
Do not raise your stick against your family
ولا ترفع عصاك على أهلكThe Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
Al-Halabi : So you called, Shaykh, and I told you that it was changed from "upon" to "from."
The Shaykh : Yes, so what is required of me now?
Al-Halabi
Do not raise your stick
ولا ترفع عصاكThe Shaykh : No, you did not take it, did you?
Al-Halabi : Yes, we took it. Correct. Now, glory be to Allah, I want to see if what we changed remained as "upon" or became "from."
The Shaykh : Good, are you sure you changed it?
Al-Halabi : Ah, a change was made based on your request, but was the change to "upon" or to "from"?
The Shaykh: No.
Al-Halabi : I do not know exactly. Now I am in doubt.
The Shaykh : The change would only be from "upon" to "from."
Al-Halabi : Correct, it must be so.
The Shaykh : And this is what appears to be the case.
Al-Halabi : And this is what agrees with the texts we discussed.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : The ones found in *Tahdhib al-Athar*.
The Shaykh : Good, so do you have the latest copy of *Sahih al-Adab*?
Al-Halabi : No, it is in the office, of course.
The Shaykh : In the office. Good, so you will review it, and if Allah wills, we will see what Allah creates.
Al-Halabi : Good, do you think adding *Tahdhib al-Athar* as a footnote or something is necessary, or is there no need?
The Shaykh : No, there is no need.
Al-Halabi : There is no need for that.
The Shaykh: No.
Al-Halabi : Ah, good, then.
The Shaykh : Because *Tahdhib al-Athar* has corroborating narrations for this passage, but as for the hadith in its entirety, I have not seen it. Did you see it?
Al-Halabi : No, no, I meant regarding this passage, Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The passage, yes.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, there are many hadiths that are explicit in the wording "from" and not "upon," is that clear?
Al-Halabi : Yes, it is clear, Shaykh. This part is found in *Tahdhib al-Athar*.
The Shaykh : From the hadith of Abu al-Darda'.
Al-Halabi : From the hadith of Abu al-Darda', yes.
The Shaykh : ... and where.
Al-Halabi : It is number... well, the numbers will be different. It will be: "Muhammad ibn al-Muthanna narrated to us, saying: Ibn Abi 'Ubayd narrated to us from Rashid Abu Muhammad from Shahr from Umm al-Darda' from Abu al-Darda' who said: My close friend Abu al-Qasim advised me and said:
Hold back from your length, do not raise your stick against them, and fear them for the sake of Allah
أمسك من طولك على هذه ولا ترفع عصاك عنهم أخفهم للهThe Shaykh : Yes, this is the number I have. I have it as 884.
Al-Halabi : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is how it is. This is what appears to be the case.
Al-Halabi : Yes.
The Shaykh : It is clear that the intended phrase is to frighten them.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : And this is the explanation of "frighten them for the sake of Allah."
Al-Halabi : Yes.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : So, I will go down to the office now, if Allah wills. I am in the process of going down.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Al-Halabi : So review this point, the hadith number eighteen in the original.
The Shaykh : Fine, may Allah reward you with good.
Al-Halabi : May Allah bless you, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : But take advantage of the opportunity.
Al-Halabi : Please, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Note it down for me.
Al-Halabi : I agree with you.
The Shaykh : Because here, when I cited *Al-Arwah* in my handwriting.
Al-Halabi: Ah.
The Shaykh : There are two numbers.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : 2086 and 2026.
Al-Halabi: Yes.
The Shaykh : If the printed number is 2026, then that is the correct one. If it is 2080, then it should be corrected.
Al-Halabi : I mean, the same... the same number, I mean the same hadith.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes, the same long hadith of Abu al-Darda' that is in *Al-Adab al-Mufrad*.
Al-Halabi : Good, I will review it today, with the permission of Allah, and call you.
The Shaykh : I noted the two numbers.
Al-Halabi : Of course, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : And that the correct one is the smaller number.
Al-Halabi : Yes, I wrote them correctly here, and here it is an error.
The Shaykh : Yes, he is good.
Al-Halabi : May Allah preserve you, Professor.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.
Al-Halabi : And you as well, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Peace be upon you.
Al-Halabi : Peace and mercy of Allah be upon you.
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