What is permissible for a suitor to see of his prospective bride at the time of the proposal?
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The questioner : e : Okay, regarding a man who wants to propose to a woman, what are the things he is allowed to see only at the time of the proposal, before the contract is written?
The Shaykh : If he is proposing to her with the consent of her guardian, he is not allowed to see anything of her except her face and her hands.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And that is all.
The questioner : e : And if, I mean, he just wants to see this woman, I mean, he sees her, and then if he likes her, he proposes to her...
The Shaykh : What did you understand from me?
The questioner : e : I understood that it is only the face and the hands.
The Shaykh: Okay, now what is your question?
The questioner : e : My question is, I mean, he does not see from... for example, if she wanted to wear, for example, something short.
The Shaykh : I told you, may Allah guide you.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : If it is by agreement with her and her father, it is not permissible except the face and the hands.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What do you mean by repeating your question in another way?
The questioner : e : Yes, that is correct.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : e : Okay, thank you.
The Shaykh : Welcome, poor thing.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you and rectify your condition. Yes.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
The questioner : e : Excuse me, can I speak with the Shaykh?
The Shaykh : With whom?
The questioner : e : The Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The Shaykh?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : He is with you.
The questioner : e : Ah, uncle.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : e : I want to ask one question only.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : e : We have shops.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : e : They are located on Garden Street; let’s say each shop costs ten thousand dinars.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : e : We entered, and a man paid; each of us paid ten thousand, ten thousand, making twenty thousand. When we came to divide the partnership between us, my father refused to take the key money, on the basis that it is forbidden in Islam for one to take key money, is that right?
The Shaykh : May Allah reward him with good.
The questioner : e : I don’t know if his right will come out for him to take it or not, because he paid it in the beginning, so why should he lose his right of ten thousand dinars in the end?
The Shaykh : Are you asking or are you issuing a fatwa?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Are you asking or are you issuing a fatwa?
The questioner : e : No, by Allah, I am asking.
The Shaykh : And why are you issuing a fatwa?
The questioner : e : I am, by Allah, only asking so that I can know the ruling.
The Shaykh : You are telling me, I mean, did he pay from the beginning? First of all, were these shops empty or occupied?
The questioner : e : How do you mean empty or occupied?
The Shaykh : I mean, are you saying now that you took key money?
The questioner : e : We paid key money for them so that we could take them, because nothing is sold these days without key money, because, I mean, these locations, I mean, there is a location called Garden, and there is key money there.
The Shaykh : My question, my question, understand what my question is.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Are these shops of yours occupied or empty?
The questioner : e : I mean, when we bought them.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : e : When we bought them?
The Shaykh : Now, okay.
The questioner : e : No, they are full of goods and they are still operating.
The Shaykh : Okay, who paid the key money?
The questioner : e : The one who paid the key money, the partners, it is his right; he took two shops, each of them ten thousand, so each of them paid ten thousand, ten thousand.
The Shaykh : Oh daughter of the faithful, I want to understand.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : Were they empty before or full?
The questioner : e : I am speaking with my father, ah, uncle, yes.
The Shaykh : I did not understand the story.
The questioner : e : I did not understand.
The Shaykh : I did not understand the story.
The questioner : e : Okay, we bought shops in locations called Garden.
The Shaykh : My question is, when you bought them, were they empty?
The questioner : e : Ah, they were empty, there was nothing in them.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : e : There was nothing in them, no.
The Shaykh : Empty.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : That is the question, that is the answer. Okay, after you bought them, what happened?
The questioner : e : What happened is that these shops started to operate, and my father wanted in the end to separate this partnership; he does not want to work with them and wants to sell his share to them.
The Shaykh : Oh daughter of the faithful, you are saying they were empty, and then you say they started to operate. How were they empty and then started to operate?
The questioner : e : Now they filled them, they started to operate, they brought in goods, and they started working with milk, labneh, and these things.
The Shaykh : Alright, let someone else speak with me.
The Shaykh : If he is proposing to her with the consent of her guardian, he is not allowed to see anything of her except her face and her hands.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And that is all.
The questioner : e : And if, I mean, he just wants to see this woman, I mean, he sees her, and then if he likes her, he proposes to her...
The Shaykh : What did you understand from me?
The questioner : e : I understood that it is only the face and the hands.
The Shaykh: Okay, now what is your question?
The questioner : e : My question is, I mean, he does not see from... for example, if she wanted to wear, for example, something short.
The Shaykh : I told you, may Allah guide you.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : If it is by agreement with her and her father, it is not permissible except the face and the hands.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : What do you mean by repeating your question in another way?
The questioner : e : Yes, that is correct.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : e : Okay, thank you.
The Shaykh : Welcome, poor thing.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you and rectify your condition. Yes.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
The questioner : e : Excuse me, can I speak with the Shaykh?
The Shaykh : With whom?
The questioner : e : The Shaykh.
The Shaykh : The Shaykh?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : He is with you.
The questioner : e : Ah, uncle.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : e : I want to ask one question only.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : e : We have shops.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : e : They are located on Garden Street; let’s say each shop costs ten thousand dinars.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : e : We entered, and a man paid; each of us paid ten thousand, ten thousand, making twenty thousand. When we came to divide the partnership between us, my father refused to take the key money, on the basis that it is forbidden in Islam for one to take key money, is that right?
The Shaykh : May Allah reward him with good.
The questioner : e : I don’t know if his right will come out for him to take it or not, because he paid it in the beginning, so why should he lose his right of ten thousand dinars in the end?
The Shaykh : Are you asking or are you issuing a fatwa?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Are you asking or are you issuing a fatwa?
The questioner : e : No, by Allah, I am asking.
The Shaykh : And why are you issuing a fatwa?
The questioner : e : I am, by Allah, only asking so that I can know the ruling.
The Shaykh : You are telling me, I mean, did he pay from the beginning? First of all, were these shops empty or occupied?
The questioner : e : How do you mean empty or occupied?
The Shaykh : I mean, are you saying now that you took key money?
The questioner : e : We paid key money for them so that we could take them, because nothing is sold these days without key money, because, I mean, these locations, I mean, there is a location called Garden, and there is key money there.
The Shaykh : My question, my question, understand what my question is.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Are these shops of yours occupied or empty?
The questioner : e : I mean, when we bought them.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : e : When we bought them?
The Shaykh : Now, okay.
The questioner : e : No, they are full of goods and they are still operating.
The Shaykh : Okay, who paid the key money?
The questioner : e : The one who paid the key money, the partners, it is his right; he took two shops, each of them ten thousand, so each of them paid ten thousand, ten thousand.
The Shaykh : Oh daughter of the faithful, I want to understand.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : Were they empty before or full?
The questioner : e : I am speaking with my father, ah, uncle, yes.
The Shaykh : I did not understand the story.
The questioner : e : I did not understand.
The Shaykh : I did not understand the story.
The questioner : e : Okay, we bought shops in locations called Garden.
The Shaykh : My question is, when you bought them, were they empty?
The questioner : e : Ah, they were empty, there was nothing in them.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : e : There was nothing in them, no.
The Shaykh : Empty.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : That is the question, that is the answer. Okay, after you bought them, what happened?
The questioner : e : What happened is that these shops started to operate, and my father wanted in the end to separate this partnership; he does not want to work with them and wants to sell his share to them.
The Shaykh : Oh daughter of the faithful, you are saying they were empty, and then you say they started to operate. How were they empty and then started to operate?
The questioner : e : Now they filled them, they started to operate, they brought in goods, and they started working with milk, labneh, and these things.
The Shaykh : Alright, let someone else speak with me.
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