Explaining the ruling on the stoning of the pillars and who is permitted to leave them in Hajj?
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The Shaykh : Regarding the stoning, it is not permissible [to leave it] because he prohibited it. When he permitted the weak, women, and children to depart from Muzdalifah after the middle of the night, he said to them: Sunan al-Bayhaqi 4:904.
The student : Yes, this is regarding the Jamrat al-Aqabah.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : But delaying [the departure] is not a problem. I spoke with him yesterday, as I visited him at his house yesterday.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : I spoke with him about this specific matter. He said this crowd is caused first by people's ignorance and their haste to get rid of it. For example, if someone is carrying a heavy load, he does not want to put it down from his head; he wants the Hajj to be over...
The student : Yes, that is right.
The Shaykh : Otherwise, I have performed Hajj, Allah knows best, twenty or thirty times, and I did not feel that I found anything [difficult]. Why? Because I delay.
The student : Yes.
The Shaykh : I delay.
The student : Until it is possible to be after sunset.
The Shaykh : Until after sunset, because the hadith is explicit. He said:.
The student : Yes.
The Shaykh : .
The student : But it seems, my Shaykh, that he conditioned that it not exceed the second day, meaning after twelve at night.
The Shaykh : It is this.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : It is sufficient, may Allah bless you.
The questioner : In a long time, yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, he did not ask me, but I spoke with him that this is the cause of the problem. Especially, I understood from him yesterday something I had not heard before, because there was no occasion where we heard of this severe crowd that resulted in many deaths, oh Allah.
The student : So he said to me, there is a man who wants to speak with you.
The Shaykh : It is possible to delay the stoning to the night. I never felt any crowd because, for example, I would stone on the first day after Asr.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : There is a crowd, but not an annoying crowd. I stone after Maghrib or after Isha.
The student : Yes, by Allah, my Shaykh, your words are correct and tested. By the grace of Allah, I have performed four Hajjs, and we do not stone except after Asr.
The Shaykh : That is it.
The student : First, my Shaykh, at the first moment, the people explode in a rush because many people believe the correct Sunnah is after the sun reaches its zenith. So everyone wants to stone. Yes, my colleague tells me, we were at his place yesterday, and he told me, by Allah, Abu Abd al-Rahman, it is something terrible.
The Shaykh : It cannot be described.
The student : Yes, he told me, the dead are under our feet, and a person cannot control anything.
The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The student : Yes, the number has now reached close to a thousand, yes, he told me.
The Shaykh : The point is, I was talking about how yesterday I was with Ismail, and this happened on the third day, the day of hastening.
The student : It is the day of hastening, may Allah honor you, my Shaykh, yes.
The Shaykh : And I thought this was on the first or second day.
The student : No, Shaykh, no, it is on the day of hastening.
The Shaykh : So the secret was revealed: the hastening, let's go.
The student : He wants to leave.
The Shaykh : They say, Ismail, maybe no one is left in Mina.
The student : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The student : Yes, yes, something else, my Shaykh. My colleague tells me something strange. These pilgrims, he says, it is a guide who was telling them, "O pilgrims, the tawaf." They said, "No, no, our Lord is Forgiving and Merciful." The Tawaf of Ifadah, meaning not just any stoning. When they saw the first day of stoning was crowded, the second day they said, "Enough, is it possible that these people just want to visit Makkah and return?"
The Shaykh : ... correct, the correct ... the weak or the reverse, the correct one and not the weak one.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : So I remembered, and the signal was green.
Do not stone until the sun rises.
لا ترموا حتَّى تطلعَ الشَّمسُThe student : Yes, this is regarding the Jamrat al-Aqabah.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : But delaying [the departure] is not a problem. I spoke with him yesterday, as I visited him at his house yesterday.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : I spoke with him about this specific matter. He said this crowd is caused first by people's ignorance and their haste to get rid of it. For example, if someone is carrying a heavy load, he does not want to put it down from his head; he wants the Hajj to be over...
The student : Yes, that is right.
The Shaykh : Otherwise, I have performed Hajj, Allah knows best, twenty or thirty times, and I did not feel that I found anything [difficult]. Why? Because I delay.
The student : Yes.
The Shaykh : I delay.
The student : Until it is possible to be after sunset.
The Shaykh : Until after sunset, because the hadith is explicit. He said:
I did not stone except when I had become evening.
ما رميت إلا وقد أمسيتThe student : Yes.
The Shaykh :
I did not stone except when I had become evening.
ما رميت إلا وقد أمسيتThe student : But it seems, my Shaykh, that he conditioned that it not exceed the second day, meaning after twelve at night.
The Shaykh : It is this.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : It is sufficient, may Allah bless you.
The questioner : In a long time, yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, he did not ask me, but I spoke with him that this is the cause of the problem. Especially, I understood from him yesterday something I had not heard before, because there was no occasion where we heard of this severe crowd that resulted in many deaths, oh Allah.
The student : So he said to me, there is a man who wants to speak with you.
The Shaykh : It is possible to delay the stoning to the night. I never felt any crowd because, for example, I would stone on the first day after Asr.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : There is a crowd, but not an annoying crowd. I stone after Maghrib or after Isha.
The student : Yes, by Allah, my Shaykh, your words are correct and tested. By the grace of Allah, I have performed four Hajjs, and we do not stone except after Asr.
The Shaykh : That is it.
The student : First, my Shaykh, at the first moment, the people explode in a rush because many people believe the correct Sunnah is after the sun reaches its zenith. So everyone wants to stone. Yes, my colleague tells me, we were at his place yesterday, and he told me, by Allah, Abu Abd al-Rahman, it is something terrible.
The Shaykh : It cannot be described.
The student : Yes, he told me, the dead are under our feet, and a person cannot control anything.
The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The student : Yes, the number has now reached close to a thousand, yes, he told me.
The Shaykh : The point is, I was talking about how yesterday I was with Ismail, and this happened on the third day, the day of hastening.
The student : It is the day of hastening, may Allah honor you, my Shaykh, yes.
The Shaykh : And I thought this was on the first or second day.
The student : No, Shaykh, no, it is on the day of hastening.
The Shaykh : So the secret was revealed: the hastening, let's go.
The student : He wants to leave.
The Shaykh : They say, Ismail, maybe no one is left in Mina.
The student : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The student : Yes, yes, something else, my Shaykh. My colleague tells me something strange. These pilgrims, he says, it is a guide who was telling them, "O pilgrims, the tawaf." They said, "No, no, our Lord is Forgiving and Merciful." The Tawaf of Ifadah, meaning not just any stoning. When they saw the first day of stoning was crowded, the second day they said, "Enough, is it possible that these people just want to visit Makkah and return?"
The Shaykh : ... correct, the correct ... the weak or the reverse, the correct one and not the weak one.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : So I remembered, and the signal was green.
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