A dialogue on whether Jeddah is considered one of the miqat boundaries for Hajj and 'Umrah, or not.
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The questioner : Now, the book on the miqat of Jeddah is coming up.
The Shaykh: How.
The student : Jeddah is a miqat.
The Shaykh : Jeddah is a miqat.
The questioner : Yes, indeed, it is permissible for it to be a miqat...
The student : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : There was a discussion on this point between me and Shaykh Salih al-Luhaydan, whom you know.
The Shaykh : It is permissible; I know him personally, but I do not recall it. When you speak about it, I do not recall it. You know him.
The questioner : Yes, he is one of the members of the Ifta Committee, the Committee for Fatwa.
Another student: He is one of the senior members of the Council of Senior Scholars.
The Shaykh : Fine, and he has a beard too, a white beard. Fine.
The questioner : This discussion was about the issue of Jeddah being a miqat. They, of course, do not consider Jeddah to be a miqat. I do not know if there are two schools of thought on this, or if it is a political policy. The government does not want Jeddah to be a miqat.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : But I said, do you consider Jeddah to be a miqat?
The Shaykh : It is not a miqat. That is the correct view, you want to say.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : To Shaykh Salih, do you consider that Jeddah is not a miqat?
The questioner : They do not consider it a miqat, but my question to him was...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Is your view that Jeddah is not a miqat contrary to the evidence, or are these five areas that were designated sacred in themselves? He said, the sanctity is not in themselves.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So I asked why... Jeddah should be a miqat, when you have established the road of al-Hudaybiyyah from Ta'if. Ta'if has two miqats: as-Sail and al-Hudaybiyyah. Al-Hudaybiyyah is a road created by the government and placed there to facilitate things for those coming from Najd.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Yes, and I spoke about the report of 'Umar regarding the people of Iraq. I said, if that is authentic from him, suppose it is authentic and he designated Dhat 'Irq for the Iraqis. He said, measure it by its counterpart. We want to measure the counterpart of Yalamlam and...
The Shaykh : al-Juhfah.
The questioner : al-Juhfah. So we found that the closest area on the coast is Jeddah, which is two stages away from Makkah. This facilitates things for the Sudanese. One comes to us from the coast, close to Jeddah, wanting to enter ihram. What do we tell him? Go to Yalamlam or al-Juhfah? That would be making things difficult for him, not making them easy. So Shaykh Salih said to me, it seems you are... ending the matter briefly. He said, leave the matter alone and do not delve into such issues. You are a beginner student of knowledge, so do not delve into such issues. So I remained silent because in their eyes I am a foreigner. I said... because it was during the Hajj season and most of those present were Saudi... so I remained silent on that account. After I saw Shaykh 'Adnan, I almost said to him, what happened in Mina? But perhaps... What is your opinion, O Shaykh? Is this designation, for example...
The Shaykh : ...a new ruling, especially regarding a spatial miqat.
The Shaykh: How.
The student : Jeddah is a miqat.
The Shaykh : Jeddah is a miqat.
The questioner : Yes, indeed, it is permissible for it to be a miqat...
The student : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : There was a discussion on this point between me and Shaykh Salih al-Luhaydan, whom you know.
The Shaykh : It is permissible; I know him personally, but I do not recall it. When you speak about it, I do not recall it. You know him.
The questioner : Yes, he is one of the members of the Ifta Committee, the Committee for Fatwa.
Another student: He is one of the senior members of the Council of Senior Scholars.
The Shaykh : Fine, and he has a beard too, a white beard. Fine.
The questioner : This discussion was about the issue of Jeddah being a miqat. They, of course, do not consider Jeddah to be a miqat. I do not know if there are two schools of thought on this, or if it is a political policy. The government does not want Jeddah to be a miqat.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : But I said, do you consider Jeddah to be a miqat?
The Shaykh : It is not a miqat. That is the correct view, you want to say.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : To Shaykh Salih, do you consider that Jeddah is not a miqat?
The questioner : They do not consider it a miqat, but my question to him was...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Is your view that Jeddah is not a miqat contrary to the evidence, or are these five areas that were designated sacred in themselves? He said, the sanctity is not in themselves.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So I asked why... Jeddah should be a miqat, when you have established the road of al-Hudaybiyyah from Ta'if. Ta'if has two miqats: as-Sail and al-Hudaybiyyah. Al-Hudaybiyyah is a road created by the government and placed there to facilitate things for those coming from Najd.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Yes, and I spoke about the report of 'Umar regarding the people of Iraq. I said, if that is authentic from him, suppose it is authentic and he designated Dhat 'Irq for the Iraqis. He said, measure it by its counterpart. We want to measure the counterpart of Yalamlam and...
The Shaykh : al-Juhfah.
The questioner : al-Juhfah. So we found that the closest area on the coast is Jeddah, which is two stages away from Makkah. This facilitates things for the Sudanese. One comes to us from the coast, close to Jeddah, wanting to enter ihram. What do we tell him? Go to Yalamlam or al-Juhfah? That would be making things difficult for him, not making them easy. So Shaykh Salih said to me, it seems you are... ending the matter briefly. He said, leave the matter alone and do not delve into such issues. You are a beginner student of knowledge, so do not delve into such issues. So I remained silent because in their eyes I am a foreigner. I said... because it was during the Hajj season and most of those present were Saudi... so I remained silent on that account. After I saw Shaykh 'Adnan, I almost said to him, what happened in Mina? But perhaps... What is your opinion, O Shaykh? Is this designation, for example...
The Shaykh : ...a new ruling, especially regarding a spatial miqat.
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