What is the ruling on a woman wearing a belt that is tied around her waist in front of women and mahrams?
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The questioner: What is the ruling on some women wearing a belt or sash that is tied around a woman's waist in front of women and mahrams? And does this fall under his saying (peace and blessings be upon him) ... regarding that Coptic woman: .
The Shaykh : Of course; because this tightening around the waist outlines what is below the waist, namely the buttocks. So it is clear that it is not permissible because it outlines the form. And a garment that outlines the 'awrah, even if it is a woman in front of a woman, is like a garment that outlines a man's 'awrah in front of a man, and there is no difference.
The questioner: But if the garment is loose and she puts this belt on it, sometimes it does not outline what is below the belt, i.e., below the waist.
The Shaykh : I do not know. The 'illah (operative cause) is the outlining. So if you, and you are a woman and understand this situation better than I do, if you imagine that with the belt there is no outlining, and this is what I do not rule out, because I understand from your words something that may be the reality and may not be. The witness sees what the absent one does not see. It may be that the garment, although it is loose and has, I do not know what you call them, folds, such that the garment is not, for example, clinging to the buttock, there are folds, but even so, when the belt is tightened around the waist, what is underneath will appear if she is thin or if she is fat. Perhaps you understood me.
The questioner: I understood. Do you mean by outlining, outlining what is below the belt?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: And not outlining the waist itself or ... .
The Shaykh : No, if we assume that the waist is like what is below it, then there is nothing wrong with it, as long as the garment is as you described and mentioned, with those folds that prevent outlining. But when I imagine a woman who has a thin waist and it is tightened, and she has large buttocks—no offense—there is no doubt that there will be outlining here, and this is not permissible.
The questioner : Because some people wear what we call a belt, and it is very wide, and she does not put anything on the middle, but the same stitching from the top, meaning ... on the middle of the waist.
The Shaykh: Yes, it is not permissible.
The questioner: Is this ...?
The Shaykh : It is not permissible, it is not permissible.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible.
The questioner: Okay, Shaykh, the place of adornment on the leg.
The Shaykh : Will you not be satisfied with this so that you make room for others?
The questioner: Yes, I have, by Allah, a collection.
The Shaykh : Will you not be content with what you asked so that you make room for others?
The questioner: Okay, I will call at another time.
The Shaykh : Tomorrow or the day after, if Allah wills.
The questioner: If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : Every night you can ask some questions.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Every night you can ask some questions.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy.
The questioner : Regarding the coercion of girls.
The Shaykh : Coercing them to do what?
The questioner : To marriage. A questioner asked you that the girl is asked for permission and so on, and he said, "They are bringing a hadith: 'Do not coerce the girls.'" So I wrote the beginning of it but did not finish it until I return to the page.
The questioner : The incident where a girl came to complain.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible to coerce girls to do what?
The questioner : To marriage. She must be asked for permission.
The Shaykh: Of course.
The questioner : That is it, so this is the beginning of the discussion. He said this hadith for the first time I heard it, so perhaps you can ask the shaykh about where it is located.
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إنِّي أخاف ... عظامهاThe Shaykh : Of course; because this tightening around the waist outlines what is below the waist, namely the buttocks. So it is clear that it is not permissible because it outlines the form. And a garment that outlines the 'awrah, even if it is a woman in front of a woman, is like a garment that outlines a man's 'awrah in front of a man, and there is no difference.
The questioner: But if the garment is loose and she puts this belt on it, sometimes it does not outline what is below the belt, i.e., below the waist.
The Shaykh : I do not know. The 'illah (operative cause) is the outlining. So if you, and you are a woman and understand this situation better than I do, if you imagine that with the belt there is no outlining, and this is what I do not rule out, because I understand from your words something that may be the reality and may not be. The witness sees what the absent one does not see. It may be that the garment, although it is loose and has, I do not know what you call them, folds, such that the garment is not, for example, clinging to the buttock, there are folds, but even so, when the belt is tightened around the waist, what is underneath will appear if she is thin or if she is fat. Perhaps you understood me.
The questioner: I understood. Do you mean by outlining, outlining what is below the belt?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: And not outlining the waist itself or ... .
The Shaykh : No, if we assume that the waist is like what is below it, then there is nothing wrong with it, as long as the garment is as you described and mentioned, with those folds that prevent outlining. But when I imagine a woman who has a thin waist and it is tightened, and she has large buttocks—no offense—there is no doubt that there will be outlining here, and this is not permissible.
The questioner : Because some people wear what we call a belt, and it is very wide, and she does not put anything on the middle, but the same stitching from the top, meaning ... on the middle of the waist.
The Shaykh: Yes, it is not permissible.
The questioner: Is this ...?
The Shaykh : It is not permissible, it is not permissible.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible.
The questioner: Okay, Shaykh, the place of adornment on the leg.
The Shaykh : Will you not be satisfied with this so that you make room for others?
The questioner: Yes, I have, by Allah, a collection.
The Shaykh : Will you not be content with what you asked so that you make room for others?
The questioner: Okay, I will call at another time.
The Shaykh : Tomorrow or the day after, if Allah wills.
The questioner: If Allah wills.
The Shaykh : Every night you can ask some questions.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Every night you can ask some questions.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy.
The questioner : Regarding the coercion of girls.
The Shaykh : Coercing them to do what?
The questioner : To marriage. A questioner asked you that the girl is asked for permission and so on, and he said, "They are bringing a hadith: 'Do not coerce the girls.'" So I wrote the beginning of it but did not finish it until I return to the page.
The questioner : The incident where a girl came to complain.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible to coerce girls to do what?
The questioner : To marriage. She must be asked for permission.
The Shaykh: Of course.
The questioner : That is it, so this is the beginning of the discussion. He said this hadith for the first time I heard it, so perhaps you can ask the shaykh about where it is located.
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