What is the ruling on the statement that it is permissible to enter the state of ihram between the two miqats?
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The student : Between the two miqats.
The Shaykh : We have always held, and still hold, this view, because parallelism is necessary. As for you, you are innovating a miqat, making it a miqat where people are given a choice, saying they can enter ihram from here or from there. Look, what will happen with our old companion between Dhul-Hulaifah and al-Juhfah? Let us assume it is one hundred kilometers. Well, fifty kilometers after Dhul-Hulaifah, is it permissible to enter ihram? Because it is between what? The two miqats, right? Forty kilometers after Dhul-Hulaifah, is it permissible?
The student : The same distance.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The student : In parallel.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The student : May Allah do so. Amen.
The Shaykh : My brother, we are talking about this: this is Dhul-Hulaifah and this is al-Juhfah. It needs, what is it called, it needs a map. It is a straight line, right?
The student : To clarify, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : There is no pen.
The Shaykh : It will not help you, because it appears there is an error in it.
The student : The evidence is being inferred.
Another student: Let us bring a piece of paper.
The student : Okay, okay, this is it. Well, here is Dhul-Hulaifah and here is al-Juhfah. According to the opinion of Shaykh 'Adnan, any point on this line.
The Shaykh : O Shaykh, may Allah guide you. Now take the opinion of Al-Albani.
The student : This is what we want.
Another student: ...
The student : That is, whoever travels by sea takes the route of the coast.
Another student: Well, our Shaykh, peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, may Allah assist you.
The student : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student : We want something from Riyadh.
The Shaykh : Welcome, welcome. How are you?
The student : Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner : Shaykh, I had a question. If I entered the prayer, the midday prayer, and after the first two rak'ahs I remembered that I was not in a state of wudu'.
Another student: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
The student : So I went to perform wudu' and I heard from your tape that I should complete it, that I should complete the prayer. So I said, the evidence is when the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) entered, so when I read in your book that before he said the takbir in one of...
This is Mecca, which is in this circle.
The Shaykh : ... you are not a painter.
The student : No, no, I am not a painter.
Another student: Give it to the Shaykh. Bring a ruler, Maya, bring a ruler.
The Shaykh : It is Mecca, well, and this is the coast of the sea.
The student: Yes.
Another student: Now they enter ihram from Jeddah.
The Shaykh : It is al-Juhfah, it is Dhul-Hulaifah.
The student: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, the mercy of Allah, and His blessings. Go ahead, it is one hundred kilometers.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay.
The student : Okay.
The Shaykh : And it is the point that you are all arguing about.
The student : The midpoint.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : Any point on this line.
Another student: He says any point on the line, not the midpoint.
Another student: Any point on this line.
The Shaykh : The midpoint is bad, but here, or here, or here.
The student : Be gentle with us, O Shaykh, we are being gentle, meaning.
The Shaykh : More than that.
The student : According to the opinion of Shaykh 'Adnan, take me with your gentleness.
Another student: These points have become worse.
The Shaykh : Let us, now, enlarge and move to Dhul-Hulaifah. In the understanding of the Shari'ah, there is no doubt that this entire area is not named Dhul-Hulaifah, correct?
The student : Yes, but give it to the student: Yes, but this is the area.
The Shaykh : No, he is not answering me.
The student : No, no, correct, correct... but I went back.
The Shaykh : And so, then, let us, now, by way of approximation, this is Dhul-Hulaifah, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : And this is al-Juhfah, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : So what is between them is neither from this nor from that. A man walked like this, like this, like this, to here without entering ihram. Did he enter ihram from the miqat?
The student : No, he did not enter ihram.
The Shaykh : Well, a man came from the sea here. Did he enter ihram from the miqat?
The student: No.
The Shaykh : Well, he came from here. Did he enter ihram from the miqat?
The student: No, no.
The Shaykh : So it is permissible to enter ihram from other than the miqat. So consider, O you who possess intellect.
The student : Well, now here is the question, O Shaykh, the second one, meaning as a rule now, meaning we understand that these miqats around Mecca are exactly this area that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) named. It is exactly this area that is the miqat.
The Shaykh : Yes, without doubt.
The student : But if a person comes, O Shaykh, from here on the road, as is happening now in al-Hudaybiyyah, and they enter ihram and say, what is this? Parallelism between the two miqats, whether from this point or this or this or this, is this considered outside the miqat, or is his entering ihram considered sufficient?
The Shaykh : I will tell you.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : There is a difference between making the miqat a place where people are given the choice to enter ihram from it, and saying that there is no way to reach the miqat except by the way of parallelism. And take this now: an airplane. Does the airplane have the ability to land its passengers? It does not have the ability. Well, now, an airplane, let us say here is the miqat for the Iraqis. An airplane came from here like this. It can pass like this, and it can pass like this, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Also, an airplane coming from here can pass like this and it can pass like this. Is this permissible?
The student : According to the opinion of Shaykh 'Adnan, it is permissible.
The Shaykh : This is an error. We say now that parallelism is necessary, but parallelism is relative. In an airplane, it is very easy for the airplane to be above it, whereas for one coming by land, it may be in mountains and valleys, and so on, right? So he is unable to reach the miqat, whether this or that. In that case, we say: parallel to it as far as you are able, not from any point as you please. In that case, we have nullified the miqats, O people. And you remember the fact that this man broke his promise to us.
The student : He... does he not ask, but...
Another student: We did not ask.
The student : Do you see that it is a period?
The Shaykh : There is another fact now, it is an interjection, so that our brother does not always occupy us, except in good, if Allah wills.
The student : If Allah wills.
Another student: I was certain.
The student : But the young men do not ask.
The Shaykh : There is a difference between saying to every pilgrim in ihram that you may pass from any place you wish, even that you can pass from here.
The student : No, Shaykh 'Adnan does not say this.
The Shaykh : How?
The student : That he passes from the miqat. I do not mean with the intention of ihram, he passes from the miqat, but without the intention of ihram, if he wants Hajj or 'Umrah.
The Shaykh: May Allah forgive you.
The student : O Allah, amen.
The Shaykh : We are now talking about which intention?
The student : Ihram.
The Shaykh : ... this detail, may Allah guide you.
The Shaykh : We have always held, and still hold, this view, because parallelism is necessary. As for you, you are innovating a miqat, making it a miqat where people are given a choice, saying they can enter ihram from here or from there. Look, what will happen with our old companion between Dhul-Hulaifah and al-Juhfah? Let us assume it is one hundred kilometers. Well, fifty kilometers after Dhul-Hulaifah, is it permissible to enter ihram? Because it is between what? The two miqats, right? Forty kilometers after Dhul-Hulaifah, is it permissible?
The student : The same distance.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The student : In parallel.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The student : May Allah do so. Amen.
The Shaykh : My brother, we are talking about this: this is Dhul-Hulaifah and this is al-Juhfah. It needs, what is it called, it needs a map. It is a straight line, right?
The student : To clarify, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : There is no pen.
The Shaykh : It will not help you, because it appears there is an error in it.
The student : The evidence is being inferred.
Another student: Let us bring a piece of paper.
The student : Okay, okay, this is it. Well, here is Dhul-Hulaifah and here is al-Juhfah. According to the opinion of Shaykh 'Adnan, any point on this line.
The Shaykh : O Shaykh, may Allah guide you. Now take the opinion of Al-Albani.
The student : This is what we want.
Another student: ...
The student : That is, whoever travels by sea takes the route of the coast.
Another student: Well, our Shaykh, peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, may Allah assist you.
The student : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The student : We want something from Riyadh.
The Shaykh : Welcome, welcome. How are you?
The student : Praise be to Allah.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
The questioner : Shaykh, I had a question. If I entered the prayer, the midday prayer, and after the first two rak'ahs I remembered that I was not in a state of wudu'.
Another student: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
The student : So I went to perform wudu' and I heard from your tape that I should complete it, that I should complete the prayer. So I said, the evidence is when the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) entered, so when I read in your book that before he said the takbir in one of...
This is Mecca, which is in this circle.
The Shaykh : ... you are not a painter.
The student : No, no, I am not a painter.
Another student: Give it to the Shaykh. Bring a ruler, Maya, bring a ruler.
The Shaykh : It is Mecca, well, and this is the coast of the sea.
The student: Yes.
Another student: Now they enter ihram from Jeddah.
The Shaykh : It is al-Juhfah, it is Dhul-Hulaifah.
The student: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, the mercy of Allah, and His blessings. Go ahead, it is one hundred kilometers.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay.
The student : Okay.
The Shaykh : And it is the point that you are all arguing about.
The student : The midpoint.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : Any point on this line.
Another student: He says any point on the line, not the midpoint.
Another student: Any point on this line.
The Shaykh : The midpoint is bad, but here, or here, or here.
The student : Be gentle with us, O Shaykh, we are being gentle, meaning.
The Shaykh : More than that.
The student : According to the opinion of Shaykh 'Adnan, take me with your gentleness.
Another student: These points have become worse.
The Shaykh : Let us, now, enlarge and move to Dhul-Hulaifah. In the understanding of the Shari'ah, there is no doubt that this entire area is not named Dhul-Hulaifah, correct?
The student : Yes, but give it to the student: Yes, but this is the area.
The Shaykh : No, he is not answering me.
The student : No, no, correct, correct... but I went back.
The Shaykh : And so, then, let us, now, by way of approximation, this is Dhul-Hulaifah, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : And this is al-Juhfah, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : So what is between them is neither from this nor from that. A man walked like this, like this, like this, to here without entering ihram. Did he enter ihram from the miqat?
The student : No, he did not enter ihram.
The Shaykh : Well, a man came from the sea here. Did he enter ihram from the miqat?
The student: No.
The Shaykh : Well, he came from here. Did he enter ihram from the miqat?
The student: No, no.
The Shaykh : So it is permissible to enter ihram from other than the miqat. So consider, O you who possess intellect.
The student : Well, now here is the question, O Shaykh, the second one, meaning as a rule now, meaning we understand that these miqats around Mecca are exactly this area that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) named. It is exactly this area that is the miqat.
The Shaykh : Yes, without doubt.
The student : But if a person comes, O Shaykh, from here on the road, as is happening now in al-Hudaybiyyah, and they enter ihram and say, what is this? Parallelism between the two miqats, whether from this point or this or this or this, is this considered outside the miqat, or is his entering ihram considered sufficient?
The Shaykh : I will tell you.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : There is a difference between making the miqat a place where people are given the choice to enter ihram from it, and saying that there is no way to reach the miqat except by the way of parallelism. And take this now: an airplane. Does the airplane have the ability to land its passengers? It does not have the ability. Well, now, an airplane, let us say here is the miqat for the Iraqis. An airplane came from here like this. It can pass like this, and it can pass like this, correct?
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Also, an airplane coming from here can pass like this and it can pass like this. Is this permissible?
The student : According to the opinion of Shaykh 'Adnan, it is permissible.
The Shaykh : This is an error. We say now that parallelism is necessary, but parallelism is relative. In an airplane, it is very easy for the airplane to be above it, whereas for one coming by land, it may be in mountains and valleys, and so on, right? So he is unable to reach the miqat, whether this or that. In that case, we say: parallel to it as far as you are able, not from any point as you please. In that case, we have nullified the miqats, O people. And you remember the fact that this man broke his promise to us.
The student : He... does he not ask, but...
Another student: We did not ask.
The student : Do you see that it is a period?
The Shaykh : There is another fact now, it is an interjection, so that our brother does not always occupy us, except in good, if Allah wills.
The student : If Allah wills.
Another student: I was certain.
The student : But the young men do not ask.
The Shaykh : There is a difference between saying to every pilgrim in ihram that you may pass from any place you wish, even that you can pass from here.
The student : No, Shaykh 'Adnan does not say this.
The Shaykh : How?
The student : That he passes from the miqat. I do not mean with the intention of ihram, he passes from the miqat, but without the intention of ihram, if he wants Hajj or 'Umrah.
The Shaykh: May Allah forgive you.
The student : O Allah, amen.
The Shaykh : We are now talking about which intention?
The student : Ihram.
The Shaykh : ... this detail, may Allah guide you.
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