Discussion of the one who claims he deals with the jinn, "and his claim that they performed a surgical operation on him"
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The questioner : But our teacher, let us return to our previous topic. This is not possible in the Shari'ah, the talk he is claiming.
The Shaykh : What talk? That
The questioner : That the jinn perform an operation and remove the testicle and heal it.
The Shaykh : Of course, they perform an operation on his brain.
The questioner : No, he said in his stomach and kidney.
The Shaykh : No, just in his brain.
The questioner : Then he says that he was once in the hospital and said that a man was married to a jinn woman, and he said to them, "Now, will I come as a Christian or a Jew?" I forgot now, maybe he said "Jew." So Ahmad 'Atiyyah stood up and recited the *al-Kursi* surah, and he started hitting himself, meaning he was harmed. Is this reasonable in the Shari'ah? The marriage of humans with a jinn woman, has anything of this passed you, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : He is taking a method fromThe Shaykh : the one mentioned in the books, the SufiThe Shaykh : the greater, and others say about himThe Shaykh : the most disbelieving. So he is taking a method from him. And the Hafiz Shams al-Din al-Dhahabi al-Dimashqi mentioned in his book *Mizan al-I'tidal fi Naqd al-Rijal*, when he biographed this one named Muhyi al-Din, and his right is to be named Mumhi al-Din, he mentioned in his biography that he used to say: "It is impossible for marriage to occur between humans and jinn. It is impossible due to the difference in their nature."[Al-A'raf 7:12] Then this man, the biographee Ibn 'Arabi the negator, was seen one day with his head bandaged. He was asked, "What is it?" He said, "I had a disagreement with my jinn wife, and she hit me with the *qabaqab* and split me open."
The questioner : You did well.
The Shaykh : Who attributed it to falsehood and lying? The Hafiz al-Dhahabi. How can I say, "Your saying is truth and veracity, it is impossible for marriage to occur between humans and jinn," and then you come and say, "I am married to a jinn woman, and I had a disagreement with her, and she went and hit me with the *qabaqab* and split me open"? In any case, I am telling the truth. We are very distressed that we are losing this man, and we fear that his contagion will spread to others. We have been informed of some of that, and some of those close to him came to me and asked me. So I said to them, "Pray for him that Allah the Exalted and Majestic guide him, if he is a misguidance-seeker and not a misleader. But if he wants to mislead people, then our Lord the Exalted and Majestic is behind the oppressors." But you, I do not know why you exclude the existence of a person like this who turns on his heels. And you know many people who turned on their heels, losers, and their head is Iblis the accursed. Are you not saying that he was the peacock of the angels? Yes, you have blessed my speech, but you are wrong.
The questioner : In the books, we read this.
The Shaykh : Yes, but this is a mistake. But at least, do you not know? You must take your caution, Professor 'Ali.
The questioner : I want to be careful about this, and I do not know.
The Shaykh : And the audience laughed.
The Shaykh : Be careful.
The questioner : But "peacock" means, we read in the books, they say so.
The Shaykh : It is so. I am asking you, not like that. Ask him to erase this word.
The questioner : Erase it.
The Shaykh : You all know that he was righteous, worshipping Allah with the angels. Then when our Lord the Exalted and Majestic said to him, in a part of what He addressed them with, that[Al-Baqarah 2:34] and you know the story. So from that day, he became accursed, driven away, and cursed until the Day of Judgment. What is the strangeness in it that a human, whether human or jinn, should be afflicted with what afflicted Iblis the accursed? And are the extreme Sufis, like al-Hallaj and his like, among the misguidance-seekers whomThe Shaykh : 'Abd al-WahhabThe Shaykh : al-Sha'rani mentions in his book *Tabaqat al-Awliya'*? He mentions about them things and things. These are undoubtedly among these misleaders in the name of Sufism, in the name of *karamah*, in the name of *wilayah*. So I hope that he is a misguidance-seeker and not a misleader.
Al-Halabi : Our Shaykh, Imam al-Dhahabi has a comment in the biography of Ibn 'Arabi after the story you mentioned.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is correct.
Al-Halabi : He says, "I do not think that Muhyi al-Din intended to lie, but those seclusions and hunger affected him with corruption, imagination, and a touch of madness." So the student is likeThe Shaykh : .
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.
The Shaykh : What talk? That
The questioner : That the jinn perform an operation and remove the testicle and heal it.
The Shaykh : Of course, they perform an operation on his brain.
The questioner : No, he said in his stomach and kidney.
The Shaykh : No, just in his brain.
The questioner : Then he says that he was once in the hospital and said that a man was married to a jinn woman, and he said to them, "Now, will I come as a Christian or a Jew?" I forgot now, maybe he said "Jew." So Ahmad 'Atiyyah stood up and recited the *al-Kursi* surah, and he started hitting himself, meaning he was harmed. Is this reasonable in the Shari'ah? The marriage of humans with a jinn woman, has anything of this passed you, my Shaykh?
The Shaykh : He is taking a method fromThe Shaykh : the one mentioned in the books, the SufiThe Shaykh : the greater, and others say about himThe Shaykh : the most disbelieving. So he is taking a method from him. And the Hafiz Shams al-Din al-Dhahabi al-Dimashqi mentioned in his book *Mizan al-I'tidal fi Naqd al-Rijal*, when he biographed this one named Muhyi al-Din, and his right is to be named Mumhi al-Din, he mentioned in his biography that he used to say: "It is impossible for marriage to occur between humans and jinn. It is impossible due to the difference in their nature."
You created me from fire and created him from clay."
خلقتني من نار وخلقته من طينThe questioner : You did well.
The Shaykh : Who attributed it to falsehood and lying? The Hafiz al-Dhahabi. How can I say, "Your saying is truth and veracity, it is impossible for marriage to occur between humans and jinn," and then you come and say, "I am married to a jinn woman, and I had a disagreement with her, and she went and hit me with the *qabaqab* and split me open"? In any case, I am telling the truth. We are very distressed that we are losing this man, and we fear that his contagion will spread to others. We have been informed of some of that, and some of those close to him came to me and asked me. So I said to them, "Pray for him that Allah the Exalted and Majestic guide him, if he is a misguidance-seeker and not a misleader. But if he wants to mislead people, then our Lord the Exalted and Majestic is behind the oppressors." But you, I do not know why you exclude the existence of a person like this who turns on his heels. And you know many people who turned on their heels, losers, and their head is Iblis the accursed. Are you not saying that he was the peacock of the angels? Yes, you have blessed my speech, but you are wrong.
The questioner : In the books, we read this.
The Shaykh : Yes, but this is a mistake. But at least, do you not know? You must take your caution, Professor 'Ali.
The questioner : I want to be careful about this, and I do not know.
The Shaykh : And the audience laughed.
The Shaykh : Be careful.
The questioner : But "peacock" means, we read in the books, they say so.
The Shaykh : It is so. I am asking you, not like that. Ask him to erase this word.
The questioner : Erase it.
The Shaykh : You all know that he was righteous, worshipping Allah with the angels. Then when our Lord the Exalted and Majestic said to him, in a part of what He addressed them with, that
when We said to the angels, "Prostrate before Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees
قال للملائكة اسجدوا لآدم فسجدوا إلا إبليسAl-Halabi : Our Shaykh, Imam al-Dhahabi has a comment in the biography of Ibn 'Arabi after the story you mentioned.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is correct.
Al-Halabi : He says, "I do not think that Muhyi al-Din intended to lie, but those seclusions and hunger affected him with corruption, imagination, and a touch of madness." So the student is likeThe Shaykh : .
The Shaykh : Yes, that is right.
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