Discussion on the implication of the hadith of Hudhayfah regarding the isolation of groups: Is it an explicit implication or not?

The student : I want to clarify now that if the hadith of Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman is not authentic regarding the matter in question, then there are many, many explicit verses in the Qur'an and explicit hadiths. So why do we, for example, leave the explicit and take the ambiguous?

The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, may Allah guide you.
The student : O Allah, amen, O Lord.

The Shaykh : Now I want to make a suggestion to you.
The student : Yes.

The Shaykh : You write it down, what do you think?
The student : There is no objection, but it means we need to have the time, if Allah wills.

The Shaykh : Fine, if you have time, you are saying explicit verses in what, man?
The student : I mean, in verses.

The Shaykh : In what? Specify the topic, in what?
The student : In explicit verses, for example, regarding the command to fight and jihad.

The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student : And explicit hadiths regarding the command to...

The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, ... May Allah guide you.
The student: Amen.

The Shaykh : Say, "Ameen."
The student: Amen, O Lord.

The Shaykh : We gathered here to bring verses that remind us of the obligation of jihad in the path of Allah.
The student : No, I mean...

The Shaykh : And you say in many and explicit verses.
The student : Ah, does the hadith of Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman, for example, have the strength to cover all these verses and hadiths?

The Shaykh : And what...
The student : Hmm.

The Shaykh : You do not like this hadith, do you?
The student : No, I like it, but if it is...

The Shaykh : Fine, what did you like about it? Bring it up so I can see.
The student : If it is not explicit regarding the matter in question.

The Shaykh : No, it is explicit, explicit regarding the matter in question. We explained it to you and gave you an example, and I gave you a grace period. I do not want... suddenly something. It seems you are thinking about something, so I gave you a grace period. I told you, "Mr. Hasan, this is the hadith of Hudhayfah, and this is our explanation of it to you. Think about it, see, answer yourself yourself. There is no imam for the Muslims, there is no group for the Muslims, so the Messenger says, 'Isolate from all those groups' . Study this hadith, it is enough for you."
The student : Fine, meaning he isolates from their ideas, meaning he does not approach them. It is not necessarily that he must be like them or that he must fight the disbelievers. Of course, he must fight the disbelievers.

The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The student : There is no condition that he must isolate.

The Shaykh : Do not speak now, Mr. Hasan.
The student : Yes.

The Shaykh : It is not permissible for you to speak now before the surprises. I am giving you a break to reflect on the matter. Do not take the matter hastily. Here there is what is forbidden, there is what is lawful, there is destruction, there is misguiding people. This is a call to truth, a call to jihad in the path of Allah. No one disputes it, but how is the call to jihad in the path of Allah? Where do we start? I told you my call starts with purification and training. So the one who says jihad in the path of Allah, from his perspective, jihad in the path of Allah must be, as you said, under an Islamic banner. But you do not understand. The Islamic banner necessitates a single authority. So we researched the topic: this group that wants to fight under an Islamic banner must have an amir.
The student : But.

The Shaykh : Then.
The student : Yes.

The Shaykh : Then we moved from this absolute amir to that it should be a caliph.
The student : But I already answered you before.

The Shaykh : May Allah deal with you as He wills; He will hold you accountable, not me.
The student : Ah, meaning I...

The Shaykh : I only mention . I convey what you tell me. Allah will hold you accountable. What is it to me? What concerns me is the clarification. It is upon you except for the clarification. I am telling you, look at the hadith of Hudhayfah.
The student : Yes.

The Shaykh : And think about it and discuss it later. See, does jihad come first or does the authority come first? See, what does the hadith of Hudhayfah indicate?
The student : Okay, we will think.

The Shaykh : If Allah wills, when you come to confront us saying there are explicit verses, and what are these verses? They are about jihad and fighting in the path of Allah.