Is it recommended to say takbir for the prostration of recitation, and what is the authenticity of the hadith of Ibn 'Umar in which he used to say takbir for it?
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The questioner : Is it recommended to say takbir for the prostration of recitation, with reference to the hadith of Ibn 'Umar in which the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) used to say takbir for it?
The Shaykh : This hadith has a man in its chain who is considered weak by the scholars of hadith, and that is 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar al-'Umrī. They are two men, in fact brothers: one is this 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar, and the other is his brother, whose name is a diminutive of 'Abdullah, 'Abd al-Rahman ibn 'Umar. 'Abd al-Rahman is trustworthy, while 'Abdullah is weak due to his poor memory. The brothers narrated this hadith; the trustworthy one did not mention the takbir of the Messenger (peace be upon him) in the prostration of recitation. As for 'Abdullah, who is known as the one with poor memory, he included this addition. Therefore, his addition is weak, indeed denounced. Consequently, all the hadiths that speak of the prostration of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him and his family) in the prostration of recitation do not mention any takbir or taslim. The takbir is only mentioned in this hadith. So, given the weakness of this 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar al-'Umrī, the one with poor memory, he contradicted all those authentic hadiths. A hadith that is like this is considered a denounced hadith.
The Shaykh : This hadith has a man in its chain who is considered weak by the scholars of hadith, and that is 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar al-'Umrī. They are two men, in fact brothers: one is this 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar, and the other is his brother, whose name is a diminutive of 'Abdullah, 'Abd al-Rahman ibn 'Umar. 'Abd al-Rahman is trustworthy, while 'Abdullah is weak due to his poor memory. The brothers narrated this hadith; the trustworthy one did not mention the takbir of the Messenger (peace be upon him) in the prostration of recitation. As for 'Abdullah, who is known as the one with poor memory, he included this addition. Therefore, his addition is weak, indeed denounced. Consequently, all the hadiths that speak of the prostration of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him and his family) in the prostration of recitation do not mention any takbir or taslim. The takbir is only mentioned in this hadith. So, given the weakness of this 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar al-'Umrī, the one with poor memory, he contradicted all those authentic hadiths. A hadith that is like this is considered a denounced hadith.
