Is it permissible to deal in riba (usury or interest) in the lands of disbelief? (Clarifying the danger of riba)

The Shaykh : Many of those who study jurisprudence in this era, based on what is found in some of the books of the schools of jurisprudence, hold that the forbidden riba (usury or interest) is forbidden in the lands of Islam, whereas in the lands of the hostile, it is permissible according to them. Here you find, as it is said today, the double standard in the dealings of Muslims with disbelievers: if it is in their interest to consider it a land of war, they consider it a land of war so that they may consume riba (usury or interest) and lend with riba (usury or interest). But is it permissible to reside in a land of war? Of course not. So they make things lawful and unlawful according to their own whims and desires. For this reason, I want to say: it is not sufficient for a Muslim to be free from consuming riba (usury or interest); rather, it is obligatory for him to be free from three other characteristics. The first: that he does not consume riba (usury or interest). The second: that he does not feed riba (usury or interest) to others.
The third: that he does not act as a scribe for riba (usury or interest), meaning that he does not assist in it. This means that he should not be an employee at a bank, even if it is labeled an Islamic bank, because these names do not reflect their true nature. The fourth and final matter: that he does not bear witness to riba (usury or interest). This is the statement of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him): .
And now we will stop, because the tea has started to distract us, and Abu Ahmad wants the recording to be free from the sound of chewing or sipping...