The man's claim that Muslims are now disbelievers because they did not believe in him, along with the Shaykh's continued advice to this man.

The Shaykh: This heart of yours, you need to purify it from the hatred and malice you hold toward your Muslim brothers and from declaring them disbelievers, and you do so in a single sitting.

The questioner: ... my Muslim brothers, I declare them disbelievers.

The Shaykh: I said: my Muslim brothers ... .

The questioner: I am telling you: my Muslim brothers, I declare them disbelievers?

The Shaykh: Yes, of course, why not? What is the ruling on the one who does not believe in you?

The questioner: His ruling is that of Allah - (Glorified and Exalted is He) - after he has displayed it and after ... .

The Shaykh: I am asking you now, Allah's ruling has not been revealed to us, we are lying to you according to your claim! What is the ruling on the one who does not believe in you?

The questioner: He dies upon disbelief and misguidance.

The Shaykh: Okay, so you do not declare Muslims disbelievers?

The questioner: No.

The Shaykh: Now, these people here, these ones.

The questioner: They are not Muslims.

The Shaykh: These are Muslims.

The questioner: They are not Muslims.

The Shaykh: They are not Muslims, you are a Muslim and your brother is a Muslim, I advise you for the sake of Allah , your brother heard with his ear and saw with his eye a verse he does not recite properly, so if our Lord - (Mighty and Majestic) - wants to guide you, this sitting will reveal to you the truth that the man, I do not say he is a disbeliever and I do not say: he is misguided as he uses these words, I say he is a man to whom things were made to appear and were made ambiguous for him; so he should use his mind which our Lord tasks His servants with, , He always addresses the people of intellect, so you use your mind, look at your brother's stance toward the scientific issues that were raised, some of them are fundamental beliefs related to the core of belief, some are secondary, some of the questions came at the end, do you know how to pray the prayer of the Messenger - (peace and blessings be upon him) - ? And I know that you know that he does not know how to pray the prayer of the Messenger - (peace and blessings be upon him) - .

Another questioner : How is that?

The Shaykh : I know.

Another questioner : How is that?

The Shaykh: And I challenge you.

Another questioner: You know the unseen.

The Shaykh: Ah, I know the unseen? What I hear is not the unseen, this is not the unseen, you are the ones who know the unseen, what Allah willed! As for me, I judge by what I hear, I do not judge by guessing the unseen, and I hope you will correct me and show me your prayer that the Messenger - (peace and blessings be upon him) - used to pray; do you have the willingness? Be frank, do not be afraid of your brother.

Another questioner: No, there is no issue of fear, but your question ... .

The Shaykh: This shouting and the trembling you showed us and this heroism, of course, it does not frighten you; because you are accustomed to him, perhaps one of us was afraid of him; because it is the first time he surprises us, but you show that every sitting you attend you see this play, so you are accustomed to this trembling you heard, so do not be afraid of it, and speak the truth even if it is against yourself, speak the truth even if it is bitter, you know that the man has no knowledge, he does not know how to read the Qur'an which he claims was revealed to him anew, my brother, if we assume that the Qur'an is the Gospel, are you with me or not?

Another questioner: I am listening to you.

The Shaykh: Good.

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: I am telling you: you are with me, meaning not faith in what I say! I mean listening.

The questioner: Ah, I am listening to you ... .

The Shaykh: This is the Qur'an, so you are with me; you tell me: I am listening to you; meaning I have nothing with you, I am just listening to you.

The questioner: Meaning you are with me in listening, but not with me in your words; meaning I ... do not approve of you.

The Shaykh: This is what I mean, and you do not approve of me by listening to the witnesses, do you see how?

Another questioner: No...

The Shaykh: You have no witnesses.

The questioner: No, the words you said ... .

The Shaykh: Listen, my brother, when I tell you: are you with me? Do I mean you are paying attention to my words?!

Another questioner: Are you listening, are you listening to my words?

The Shaykh: Are you paying attention to my words?

The questioner: I tell you: I am listening to you.

The Shaykh: Yes, listening, why don't you say: I am with you?

The questioner: I am listening to your words ... .

The Shaykh: Okay, the important thing, my lord, the important thing, my lord, the important thing.
You have now witnessed things and witnessed evidence, so your Lord will ask you on the Day of Resurrection, He will say to you: the man, meaning he threw several questions at you and you did not answer them, he did not answer them of course, you cannot answer them.

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: The last thing, like this, my lord, Islamic etiquette is like this.

The questioner: Okay, we need to listen, we are listening.

The Shaykh: So now, do you have the willingness to correct us in this thing that you thought, you say: you know the unseen? I told you: no, but I judge you by your own mouth, do you have the willingness to prove to us, I am still saying: are you with me or not? Because deeds are judged by their endings, your last word, prove to us our error that you do not know how to pray the prayer of the Messenger - (peace and blessings be upon him) - ? Please, pray and we are witnesses; so either you prove our error or we prove your misguidance, and that the man is deluded and you are misguided, walking behind him without guidance! This is the example, please, pray, what do you think? Is there anything in this speech?

The questioner: Are you finished?

The Shaykh: I am finished, is there anything in this speech?

The questioner: You are speaking your words and you do not want to hear the answer.

The Shaykh: I am just asking.

Another questioner: ... I answer, you do not want me to answer?

The Shaykh: And I do not want you to answer? If one asks, does he not want an answer?

Another questioner: ... I answer.

The Shaykh: But you want to answer, is there anything in this speech? Give a lecture in the style of your brother!
Please, is there anything in this speech?

Another questioner: ... with a specific person, the thing that he commits to and sees as appropriate, I am committed to it, if he wants to show you, I am with him, and if he does not see it as appropriate to show you, I am still not going out of it, meaning ... is there anything?

The Shaykh: Okay, did you understand my question?

Another questioner: Ah, you tell me ... I tell you: so he sees ... .

The Shaykh: By the great Allah, you are one of two people; either you did not understand the question, or you understood it and refused the answer.

Another questioner: You, either you are ... .

The Shaykh: Listen, my dear, I am telling you: is there anything in this question? Show us your prayer, either you show us that you are on the path of the Messenger and you pray his prayer, or no, I tell you: is there anything in this question? You are going around and around just like your brother exactly, is there anything in this question, is it wrong or right?

Another questioner: There is nothing in this question.

The Shaykh: Okay, show us your prayer.

Another questioner: I did not tell you that!

The Shaykh: What did you tell me?

Another questioner: I told you: I am committed to a specific person.

The Shaykh : What Allah willed!

Another questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh: He said an hour ago that his brother is with him, so that he speaks, now do you need his permission?

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: Show us your prayer ... .

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: Please, pray.

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: Of course.

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: We are telling you now that the prayer you are praying, I take it from your brother who is revealed to! Please.

Another questioner : Come on...

The Shaykh: Come on, let's see.

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: I did not give you permission.

Another questioner: ... it does not help.

The Shaykh: Huh, be careful, disobey him, "" far away "" , Allah is truthful and great, but this is not a Messenger, this is not a Messenger, fear Allah, I am telling you: fear Allah.

Another questioner: A Messenger, and our Lord - (Glorified and Exalted is He) - .

The Shaykh: This is not the Messenger.

Another questioner: ... proves this speech.

Another questioner: Okay, that one - our Shaykh - was revealed to him!! What is the brother's faith in him? How did the brother believe in him?

Another questioner: I believed in him?

Another questioner: How did you believe in him?

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: Pray so we can see.

Another questioner: ... he does not want me to pray, so I do not pray unless he tells me: we need to pray ... .

Another questioner: ... what is this empty talk of yours?

Another questioner: I am afraid ... .

Another questioner: No, you are the one who is afraid, not knowing ... .

Another questioner: What are you afraid of.

Another questioner: Okay, you pray.

Another questioner: You pray.

Another questioner: I do not want to, my brother, it is not obligatory upon me ... .
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The Shaykh: No, he is telling you in the Sufi style ... and walk ... .
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