Discussions on the topic of the Salaf’s differing understandings in a specific issue.
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The questioner: It is from what was mentioned that Shaykh Nasir and these scholars of the Salafi methodology differed; did Shaykh Nasir and Ibn Baz differ on the issue of raising the hands and joining the hands?
The Shaykh : The placement of the hands.
The questioner: Joining the hands.
The Shaykh: Placing the hands, yes.
The questioner : After bowing.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: So he said, meaning this is something that happened...
The Shaykh: It was a fitnah (trial) that occurred among the Companions, so what was it? Did we quarrel? No, because the principle is one: Allah said, and the Messenger of Allah said. He understood the hadith in one way, and I understood it in another way!
Another questioner: No... You understood it against me in the hadith of Ibn 'Umar where a questioner asked him... He said: It is a good and beautiful matter that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) did and commanded. He said: How so, when your father 'Umar used to prohibit it? He said: O this one, when the command comes from Abu Bakr and from the Messenger of Allah, which of them do you take? He said: The saying of the Messenger of Allah. He said: Get away from me!
The Shaykh: [The Shaykh laughs!] If one of us did that or said it, the Day of Resurrection would rise against him... One said to the other: Get away from me!
The questioner: And he got up... He understood.
The Shaykh: Look at how the Salaf were frank; they did not know this kind of going around in circles.
The questioner: He answered from two sources...
The Shaykh: Get away from me [The Shaykh laughs!].
Another questioner: In "Sahih Muslim," 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar cursed his son with a terrible curse; I never saw him curse him like that before.
He cursed him with a terrible curse; I never saw him curse him like that before...
The Shaykh: I think it is... "The Description of Prayer," the introduction.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: The hadith of Ibn 'Umar.
...
The Shaykh: Did I mention it or did you?
The Shaykh: ... There is a hadith of Ibn 'Abbas.
The questioner : An athar.
The Shaykh : An athar.
Another questioner: Ibn 'Abbas is mentioned in the book of Tawhid without attribution to the source.
The Shaykh: He says it this way.
The Shaykh : The placement of the hands.
The questioner: Joining the hands.
The Shaykh: Placing the hands, yes.
The questioner : After bowing.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: So he said, meaning this is something that happened...
The Shaykh: It was a fitnah (trial) that occurred among the Companions, so what was it? Did we quarrel? No, because the principle is one: Allah said, and the Messenger of Allah said. He understood the hadith in one way, and I understood it in another way!
Another questioner: No... You understood it against me in the hadith of Ibn 'Umar where a questioner asked him... He said: It is a good and beautiful matter that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) did and commanded. He said: How so, when your father 'Umar used to prohibit it? He said: O this one, when the command comes from Abu Bakr and from the Messenger of Allah, which of them do you take? He said: The saying of the Messenger of Allah. He said: Get away from me!
The Shaykh: [The Shaykh laughs!] If one of us did that or said it, the Day of Resurrection would rise against him... One said to the other: Get away from me!
The questioner: And he got up... He understood.
The Shaykh: Look at how the Salaf were frank; they did not know this kind of going around in circles.
The questioner: He answered from two sources...
The Shaykh: Get away from me [The Shaykh laughs!].
Another questioner: In "Sahih Muslim," 'Abdullah ibn 'Umar cursed his son with a terrible curse; I never saw him curse him like that before.
He cursed him with a terrible curse; I never saw him curse him like that before...
The Shaykh: I think it is... "The Description of Prayer," the introduction.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: The hadith of Ibn 'Umar.
...
The Shaykh: Did I mention it or did you?
The Shaykh: ... There is a hadith of Ibn 'Abbas.
The questioner : An athar.
The Shaykh : An athar.
Another questioner: Ibn 'Abbas is mentioned in the book of Tawhid without attribution to the source.
The Shaykh: He says it this way.
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