Questions about the ruling on some financial transactions.
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The Shaykh : ... There is no compensation here, and this is due to the disagreement, the disagreement, but people—do not hold me to this—if you are a judge and you are not paying attention to the turning and twisting; so the entire ummah (Muslim community) is compensation, my brother, if Allah wills!! ... Where is the compensation? There is no compensation; meaning, from your pocket to your pocket, you take from here and put it there!
The questioner: From his oil ... .
The Shaykh : Oh?
The questioner: From his oil ... .
The Shaykh: This is it, this is it, completely.
The questioner: My Shaykh, does the employee ... when he takes ... for example, when they tell him: This ... we took the percentage of the compensation that you said is embezzlement with the left hand and the right hand; is there anything on me if I take it?
The Shaykh: The five percent?
The questioner: No, not the five percent.
Another questioner: The compensation, the compensation that they prescribed for you, meaning ... .
The Shaykh: No, it is not permissible ... this is riba (usury or interest).
The questioner: ... Your five percent, they also gave you the nine percent; what ... ?
The Shaykh: It is riba (usury or interest), you are like what our friend said, he gave you the hour: What do I do? They took five from me against my will, and they went and made a profit. You want to take the five because it is your money, but not ... from the five from riba (usury or interest), it is not permissible.
The questioner: But this talk is, of course, meaning.
Another questioner: Prevent them from working ... .
The questioner: Wait a moment, this talk is, of course, a suspicion, no; this talk is, in your view, a certainty that the state is equalizing.
The Shaykh : ... ؟
The questioner: A certainty in your view that the state is equalizing.
The Shaykh: How is it equalizing, meaning?
The questioner: It is not a suspicion, the matter is not a suspicion, no, it is not a suspicion in your view or Abu Abdullah's when ... this talk, it is not a suspicion in your view that they are like this, meaning it is possible that they take the five in order to put it in the ... .
Another questioner: It is a factual reality.
The questioner: This is a factual reality, not a suspicion.
The Shaykh: Who doubts it?
The questioner: I do not doubt it, I just want to be sure, meaning.
The Shaykh: Who doubts it so that you are verifying it? No one doubts it, this issue, yes, but the important thing is, is it permissible for him to take more than the five percent of the hundred?
The questioner: Who ... ?
The Shaykh: Of course, this employee?
The questioner : Ah, ah.
The Shaykh: The one from whose salary five percent was deducted.
The questioner: The most scrupulous thing is that he does not take it.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner: The most scrupulous thing is that he does not take it.
The Shaykh : I made a mistake.
The questioner: ... I mean it.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner: I mean the word "the most scrupulous" is that he does not take it.
The Shaykh: You said: The most scrupulous ... what is the correct ruling?
The questioner: What is the correct ruling?
The Shaykh: The obligatory thing is that he does not take it.
The questioner: What is it, because the matter is not a certainty, the matter is not a certainty for me that the state is equalizing, I do not know.
The Shaykh: How do you not know that every employee has five percent deducted from his salary.
The questioner: I know, but I do not know that the state takes the five percent of money and gives it to the bank ... on it, this is what I do not know, and therefore I told you that the most scrupulous thing for me is that I do not take it, and it is not obligatory on me because it is not a fact.
The Shaykh: ... How, meaning ... why are you doubting that the state?
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: Because the state imposes on the head of the institution, my Shaykh, the state—also—imposes on the head of the institution from his own pocket that he give it to me every month as compensation, from his pocket and not from the state treasury or from the insurance or or or, pay attention to it, it happened with me in a house ... that the law forced ... that he give me for every what? For every year I worked with them, a full month of compensation from his pocket ... .
The questioner: From his oil ... .
The Shaykh : Oh?
The questioner: From his oil ... .
The Shaykh: This is it, this is it, completely.
The questioner: My Shaykh, does the employee ... when he takes ... for example, when they tell him: This ... we took the percentage of the compensation that you said is embezzlement with the left hand and the right hand; is there anything on me if I take it?
The Shaykh: The five percent?
The questioner: No, not the five percent.
Another questioner: The compensation, the compensation that they prescribed for you, meaning ... .
The Shaykh: No, it is not permissible ... this is riba (usury or interest).
The questioner: ... Your five percent, they also gave you the nine percent; what ... ?
The Shaykh: It is riba (usury or interest), you are like what our friend said, he gave you the hour: What do I do? They took five from me against my will, and they went and made a profit. You want to take the five because it is your money, but not ... from the five from riba (usury or interest), it is not permissible.
The questioner: But this talk is, of course, meaning.
Another questioner: Prevent them from working ... .
The questioner: Wait a moment, this talk is, of course, a suspicion, no; this talk is, in your view, a certainty that the state is equalizing.
The Shaykh : ... ؟
The questioner: A certainty in your view that the state is equalizing.
The Shaykh: How is it equalizing, meaning?
The questioner: It is not a suspicion, the matter is not a suspicion, no, it is not a suspicion in your view or Abu Abdullah's when ... this talk, it is not a suspicion in your view that they are like this, meaning it is possible that they take the five in order to put it in the ... .
Another questioner: It is a factual reality.
The questioner: This is a factual reality, not a suspicion.
The Shaykh: Who doubts it?
The questioner: I do not doubt it, I just want to be sure, meaning.
The Shaykh: Who doubts it so that you are verifying it? No one doubts it, this issue, yes, but the important thing is, is it permissible for him to take more than the five percent of the hundred?
The questioner: Who ... ?
The Shaykh: Of course, this employee?
The questioner : Ah, ah.
The Shaykh: The one from whose salary five percent was deducted.
The questioner: The most scrupulous thing is that he does not take it.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner: The most scrupulous thing is that he does not take it.
The Shaykh : I made a mistake.
The questioner: ... I mean it.
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner: I mean the word "the most scrupulous" is that he does not take it.
The Shaykh: You said: The most scrupulous ... what is the correct ruling?
The questioner: What is the correct ruling?
The Shaykh: The obligatory thing is that he does not take it.
The questioner: What is it, because the matter is not a certainty, the matter is not a certainty for me that the state is equalizing, I do not know.
The Shaykh: How do you not know that every employee has five percent deducted from his salary.
The questioner: I know, but I do not know that the state takes the five percent of money and gives it to the bank ... on it, this is what I do not know, and therefore I told you that the most scrupulous thing for me is that I do not take it, and it is not obligatory on me because it is not a fact.
The Shaykh: ... How, meaning ... why are you doubting that the state?
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: Because the state imposes on the head of the institution, my Shaykh, the state—also—imposes on the head of the institution from his own pocket that he give it to me every month as compensation, from his pocket and not from the state treasury or from the insurance or or or, pay attention to it, it happened with me in a house ... that the law forced ... that he give me for every what? For every year I worked with them, a full month of compensation from his pocket ... .
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