What is your opinion regarding those who adopt loyalty to their own groups and seek dispensations for them, such as trimming the beard, and who do not accept the truth when it is advised to them and explained to them?
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The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good. What is your opinion regarding those who adopt loyalty to their own groups and seek dispensations for them after being advised with authentic hadiths, and regarding the saying of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)?
The Shaykh : Excuse me, what was your first point? What is your opinion?
The questioner : Regarding those who adopt loyalty to their own groups and seek dispensations for them?
The Shaykh : What do you mean by dispensations?
The questioner : By dispensations, I mean that whatever mistake they commit, they permit it for them, saying "do this for a specific reason" or "they did this for a specific reason," meaning they permit them to act even if it is...?
The Shaykh: There is something.
The questioner: Yes.
Another questioner : Shaykh, justifications.
The Shaykh : It might be like that.
The questioner : So when we convey to them something like an authentic hadith, they do not accept it?
The Shaykh : Fine, do you convey this to them from the people of hadith or from the people of a specific school of jurisprudence?
The questioner : No, the people of hadith.
The Shaykh : The people of hadith.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And they are not satisfied with taking from the hadith.
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : How do you imagine this situation?
The questioner : No, it exists.
The Shaykh : Can you give an example?
The questioner : An example we experienced in Pakistan.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I mean, I do not have a specific example in mind, but there was a situation in Pakistan where there were more than one group. We would convey to them that a certain action, for example, is not permissible... and they would interpret it with a second interpretation, so that when we convey to them that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) did not do this action, they would interpret it with a second interpretation that it is not permissible or something like that.
The Shaykh : What you are describing is not valid regarding the people of hadith. This is possible regarding those who follow a school of jurisprudence without knowing the evidence. Therefore, when you said that they are among those who act according to the hadith, there is a contradiction: do they act according to the hadith or not? That is not acceptable. If your statement is precise in expression, then these people are not from the people of hadith, but from the people of a school of jurisprudence!
The questioner : When you speak to them, they say, "I am, I am, I am upon the Qur'an and the Sunnah, I am not outside of the hadith." But when you convey to them that the action they performed was not brought by the Messenger, they bring up a dispensation or something like that.
The Shaykh : He does not explain the matter well to us except by giving an example. As for the answer based on your question, what should I tell you? Everyone who refuses to accept the hadith of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) under two conditions: it is established for him that the hadith is authentic, and it is established for him that its meaning is correct, yet he still does not accept it, this person is misguided. Whether he is from the people of hadith or from those who follow a school of jurisprudence, this is the answer. But I do not think you will benefit from such a thing unless you give an example.
The questioner : Is the example like the beard?
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : The beard, for example, not touching it or not trimming it?
The Shaykh: Perfect.
The questioner : So when a person, for example, adjusts it, keeps adjusting it, and takes from it. Why do you say it is for the sake of benefit or for something? And yet, he is able to keep the beard as it is.
The Shaykh : Now, the example.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good. What is your opinion regarding those who adopt loyalty to their own groups and seek dispensations for them after being advised with authentic hadiths, and regarding the saying of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)
Whoever calls to tribalism, let him bite his father.
من دعا إلى عصبية فليعضض بهن أبيهThe Shaykh : Excuse me, what was your first point? What is your opinion?
The questioner : Regarding those who adopt loyalty to their own groups and seek dispensations for them?
The Shaykh : What do you mean by dispensations?
The questioner : By dispensations, I mean that whatever mistake they commit, they permit it for them, saying "do this for a specific reason" or "they did this for a specific reason," meaning they permit them to act even if it is...?
The Shaykh: There is something.
The questioner: Yes.
Another questioner : Shaykh, justifications.
The Shaykh : It might be like that.
The questioner : So when we convey to them something like an authentic hadith, they do not accept it?
The Shaykh : Fine, do you convey this to them from the people of hadith or from the people of a specific school of jurisprudence?
The questioner : No, the people of hadith.
The Shaykh : The people of hadith.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And they are not satisfied with taking from the hadith.
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : How do you imagine this situation?
The questioner : No, it exists.
The Shaykh : Can you give an example?
The questioner : An example we experienced in Pakistan.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : I mean, I do not have a specific example in mind, but there was a situation in Pakistan where there were more than one group. We would convey to them that a certain action, for example, is not permissible... and they would interpret it with a second interpretation, so that when we convey to them that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) did not do this action, they would interpret it with a second interpretation that it is not permissible or something like that.
The Shaykh : What you are describing is not valid regarding the people of hadith. This is possible regarding those who follow a school of jurisprudence without knowing the evidence. Therefore, when you said that they are among those who act according to the hadith, there is a contradiction: do they act according to the hadith or not? That is not acceptable. If your statement is precise in expression, then these people are not from the people of hadith, but from the people of a school of jurisprudence!
The questioner : When you speak to them, they say, "I am, I am, I am upon the Qur'an and the Sunnah, I am not outside of the hadith." But when you convey to them that the action they performed was not brought by the Messenger, they bring up a dispensation or something like that.
The Shaykh : He does not explain the matter well to us except by giving an example. As for the answer based on your question, what should I tell you? Everyone who refuses to accept the hadith of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) under two conditions: it is established for him that the hadith is authentic, and it is established for him that its meaning is correct, yet he still does not accept it, this person is misguided. Whether he is from the people of hadith or from those who follow a school of jurisprudence, this is the answer. But I do not think you will benefit from such a thing unless you give an example.
The questioner : Is the example like the beard?
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : The beard, for example, not touching it or not trimming it?
The Shaykh: Perfect.
The questioner : So when a person, for example, adjusts it, keeps adjusting it, and takes from it. Why do you say it is for the sake of benefit or for something? And yet, he is able to keep the beard as it is.
The Shaykh : Now, the example.
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