What is the ruling on one who insults Allah after the proof has been established against him and he remains defiant?
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The Shaykh : The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Sunan Abi Dawud 4928Sahih (Al-Albani) So this person whom you see praying, and yet he insults Allah and His Messenger, this is one who must be advised. Once you advise him, it will become clear to you whether his prayer is based on belief or on hypocrisy. If he says to you, as some of the praying people say when asked if they are praying, "May Allah accept our repentance," then this person who insulted Allah and His Messenger, once advised, says, "May Allah curse Satan, I seek Allah's forgiveness." What do you say about him? Was his disbelief intentional and from the heart, or was it merely verbal and not intentional? Please speak.
The questioner : If it is this kind of disbelief, or that kind, I would have killed him, for example.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible.
The questioner : Assuming that, is not his blood forfeit?
The Shaykh : No
The questioner : Because we have read, as in the books of the righteous Salaf,
The Shaykh : No, before you read, before you read.
The questioner : The Drawn Sword against the Insulter of the Messenger.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, my brother. You must be certain that the one who insults the Messenger did so intentionally, not out of anger, ignorance, or the like. The one who insults the Messenger (peace be upon him) is in one of two states, my brother, and I am telling you this. You see him praying with you, and yet he insulted the Messenger, and I told you about the praying people. How can you say now that his blood is lawful?
The questioner : The one who is praying is different, O Shaykh. But now, he does not pray, he rejects the advice, and he persists in insulting the Lord.
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. Every question has an answer. My purpose in this detail is so that none of our brothers rush to say, "This person insulted Allah and His Messenger, so his blood is lawful."
The questioner : We do not want to rush. We ask so that we may benefit. May Allah bless you.
The Shaykh : And I, in this regard,
The questioner : Because most of those we advise to stop insulting Allah,
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy and blessings of Allah.
The questioner : So many of those we advise to stop insulting Allah and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) do not stop and persist in it. What is the ruling on this? As for the one who prays and insults Allah out of anger or ignorance or such, as you mentioned, we have learned about that. But as for the one who persists in it, and we advise him, and he persists in it,
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So what is his ruling?
The Shaykh : A disbeliever.
The questioner : This is what we want.
The Shaykh : You have expanded on it now. May Allah guide you.Sahih Muslim 49a
The questioner: ...
The Shaykh : Al-Azdi is a memorizer, but he is strict in his criticism of narrators... How am I supposed to answer in this noise?
Another questioner : O our Shaykh, if you please, some people in this time,
Abu Layla : When you raise your finger, they give you permission, but like this...
Another questioner : There are no questions now.
The Shaykh : They are silent, but those who came before have the right, so be patient.
Abu Layla : They are not silent... We apologize now.
The Shaykh : The time will be wasted, and we said before you returned that if they are silent, we will continue, and if they are not silent, we will apologize...
Al-Halabi : In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. And all praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds. And blessings and peace be upon the noblest of the messengers, and upon his family and all his companions. As for what follows, it has been authentically reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that he said:Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2629Sahih (Darussalam) And this scholarly gathering is a living example applying this Prophetic hadith, which is one of the signs of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). For you, my Muslim brother, hear the forbidden voice and the musical instruments... and the singing of that voice which disturbed the council of knowledge without any shame, until it cut off the gathering, while that singing continued with all its sin and arrogance. And the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) was truthful when he said: Sunan Ibn Majah 4183Sahih (Darussalam) And there is no power and no strength except with Allah.
I have been prohibited from killing people who pray
نهيت عن قتل المصلينThe questioner : If it is this kind of disbelief, or that kind, I would have killed him, for example.
The Shaykh : It is not permissible.
The questioner : Assuming that, is not his blood forfeit?
The Shaykh : No
The questioner : Because we have read, as in the books of the righteous Salaf,
The Shaykh : No, before you read, before you read.
The questioner : The Drawn Sword against the Insulter of the Messenger.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, my brother. You must be certain that the one who insults the Messenger did so intentionally, not out of anger, ignorance, or the like. The one who insults the Messenger (peace be upon him) is in one of two states, my brother, and I am telling you this. You see him praying with you, and yet he insulted the Messenger, and I told you about the praying people. How can you say now that his blood is lawful?
The questioner : The one who is praying is different, O Shaykh. But now, he does not pray, he rejects the advice, and he persists in insulting the Lord.
The Shaykh : May Allah bless you. Every question has an answer. My purpose in this detail is so that none of our brothers rush to say, "This person insulted Allah and His Messenger, so his blood is lawful."
The questioner : We do not want to rush. We ask so that we may benefit. May Allah bless you.
The Shaykh : And I, in this regard,
The questioner : Because most of those we advise to stop insulting Allah,
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy and blessings of Allah.
The questioner : So many of those we advise to stop insulting Allah and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) do not stop and persist in it. What is the ruling on this? As for the one who prays and insults Allah out of anger or ignorance or such, as you mentioned, we have learned about that. But as for the one who persists in it, and we advise him, and he persists in it,
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : So what is his ruling?
The Shaykh : A disbeliever.
The questioner : This is what we want.
The Shaykh : You have expanded on it now. May Allah guide you.
He who amongst you sees something abominable should modify it with the help of his hand; and if he has not strength enough to do it, then he should do it with his tongue, and if he has not strength enough to do it, (even) then he should (abhor it) from his heart, and that is the least of faith.
من رأى منكم منكرا فليغيره بيده فإن لم يستطع فبلسانه فإن لم يستطع فبقلبه و ذلك أضعف الإيمانThe questioner: ...
The Shaykh : Al-Azdi is a memorizer, but he is strict in his criticism of narrators... How am I supposed to answer in this noise?
Another questioner : O our Shaykh, if you please, some people in this time,
Abu Layla : When you raise your finger, they give you permission, but like this...
Another questioner : There are no questions now.
The Shaykh : They are silent, but those who came before have the right, so be patient.
Abu Layla : They are not silent... We apologize now.
The Shaykh : The time will be wasted, and we said before you returned that if they are silent, we will continue, and if they are not silent, we will apologize...
Al-Halabi : In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. And all praise is due to Allah, Lord of the worlds. And blessings and peace be upon the noblest of the messengers, and upon his family and all his companions. As for what follows, it has been authentically reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that he said:
Indeed Islam began as something strange and it will return to being strange as it began. So Tuba is for the strangers.
إن الإسلام بدأ غريبا و سيعود غريبا كما بدأ فطوبي للغرباءAmong the words that people learned from the earlier Prophets are: ‘If you feel no shame, then do as you wish.’
إن مما أدرك الناس من كلام النبوة الأولى إذا لم تستحي فاصنع ما شئت
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