(Explanation of the Sources of the People of Ta'til) And you have books of kalām, and these ***opinions are full of nonsense, almost breaking each other like a ***vessel of broken glass for the pillars
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The Shaykh :"And you have books of kalām, and these ***opinions are full of nonsense"
Is there a difference between this and that, or not? There is certainly a difference.
"Almost breaking each other like a ***vessel of broken glass for the pillars"
I mean, what you have is almost breaking each other, and that is why you find them contradictory. In fact, you find one of them writing books in which he contradicts himself. And this verse was taken by the author from a previous verse mentioned by al-Khattabi, which says:
"Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken"
I mean, the arguments of the people of kalām are like this verse. I read it a second and third time, and then you recite it to me. He says, "No, you understand, O 'Abd al-Rahman ibn Dawud." He raised his hand as if saying, "Bring it out," because you have memorized it from before.
"Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken" This is the second and third time.
"Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken" Who has it memorized?
The student: "Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken".
The Shaykh : Perfect, that is enough. I mean, they collapse like glass, you think them truth, and every one breaks the other. Yes, he says: "Is there anything other than opinion, or ***false speech, or the logic of the Greeks?"
The answer is no.
Is there a difference between this and that, or not? There is certainly a difference.
"Almost breaking each other like a ***vessel of broken glass for the pillars"
I mean, what you have is almost breaking each other, and that is why you find them contradictory. In fact, you find one of them writing books in which he contradicts himself. And this verse was taken by the author from a previous verse mentioned by al-Khattabi, which says:
"Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken"
I mean, the arguments of the people of kalām are like this verse. I read it a second and third time, and then you recite it to me. He says, "No, you understand, O 'Abd al-Rahman ibn Dawud." He raised his hand as if saying, "Bring it out," because you have memorized it from before.
"Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken" This is the second and third time.
"Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken" Who has it memorized?
The student: "Arguments that collapse like glass, you think them ***truth, and every breaker is broken".
The Shaykh : Perfect, that is enough. I mean, they collapse like glass, you think them truth, and every one breaks the other. Yes, he says: "Is there anything other than opinion, or ***false speech, or the logic of the Greeks?"
The answer is no.