Is there a standard for the dhikr, because we find some people raising their voices in congregation after the Maghrib prayer?
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The questioner : O honorable Shaykh, is there a standard for the dhikr?
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : Is there a standard for the dhikr, especially since we find some groups that, for example, set aside a specific time, such as after the Maghrib prayer, to raise their voices in dhikr and so on after the prayer?
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The standard in this, in the dhikr or other acts of worship, is what the Sunnah has brought. What the Sunnah has brought is truth, and what the Sunnah has not brought is a religious innovation (bid'ah), because the original ruling for acts of worship is prohibition and prevention until evidence establishes that they are prescribed (mashru').
So, for example, do these people who gather after Maghrib and raise their voices in takbir or tasbih in a collective manner—did this come from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) or from the Companions? The answer is: No. So, as long as it did not come from the Messenger or the Rightly Guided Caliphs, it is not a Sunnah; it is a religious innovation (bid'ah) from which one is forbidden.
The questioner : And the prayer with this group, I mean, after?The Shaykh : Do they also pray in congregation?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : After Maghrib.
The questioner : After we pray the congregation with them, immediately after the prayer, as soon as the imam says the taslim, they raise their voices, especially the imam and the ma'mumin (those praying behind him) raise their voices after him.
The Shaykh : The prayer, do they pray in congregation?
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Do they pray in congregation?
The questioner : They pray in congregation in the mosque.
The Shaykh : The congregational prayer, the regular voluntary prayers (rawatib), are not established except in what the Sunnah has brought.
Also, the five daily prayers, the standing in Ramadan, the eclipse prayer, if we say it is a Sunnah, and the prayer for rain (istisqa'). As for the regular voluntary prayers (rawatib) and the night prayer, congregation is not prescribed for them, but there is no harm in doing it occasionally, as the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did when he stood with 'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas, 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, and Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman.
The questioner : I meant, O honorable Shaykh, praying with them in congregation, especially since they set aside this time.
The Shaykh : I mean, your intention is to be a ma'mum (one praying behind the imam).
The questioner : With them, with the imam.
The Shaykh : There is no harm, there is no harm in praying with him, because this religious innovation (bid'ah) does not make him a disbeliever.
The questioner : And I leave after the prayer.
The Shaykh : I say: It does not make him a disbeliever, I mean, there is no harm in praying behind him, because this religious innovation (bid'ah) is not one that causes disbelief, unless you fear that if you pray behind him, he or others will be led astray because you prayed behind him; in that case, do not pray behind him.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
Another questioner: Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy.
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : Is there a standard for the dhikr, especially since we find some groups that, for example, set aside a specific time, such as after the Maghrib prayer, to raise their voices in dhikr and so on after the prayer?
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The standard in this, in the dhikr or other acts of worship, is what the Sunnah has brought. What the Sunnah has brought is truth, and what the Sunnah has not brought is a religious innovation (bid'ah), because the original ruling for acts of worship is prohibition and prevention until evidence establishes that they are prescribed (mashru').
So, for example, do these people who gather after Maghrib and raise their voices in takbir or tasbih in a collective manner—did this come from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) or from the Companions? The answer is: No. So, as long as it did not come from the Messenger or the Rightly Guided Caliphs, it is not a Sunnah; it is a religious innovation (bid'ah) from which one is forbidden.
The questioner : And the prayer with this group, I mean, after?The Shaykh : Do they also pray in congregation?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : After Maghrib.
The questioner : After we pray the congregation with them, immediately after the prayer, as soon as the imam says the taslim, they raise their voices, especially the imam and the ma'mumin (those praying behind him) raise their voices after him.
The Shaykh : The prayer, do they pray in congregation?
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Do they pray in congregation?
The questioner : They pray in congregation in the mosque.
The Shaykh : The congregational prayer, the regular voluntary prayers (rawatib), are not established except in what the Sunnah has brought.
Also, the five daily prayers, the standing in Ramadan, the eclipse prayer, if we say it is a Sunnah, and the prayer for rain (istisqa'). As for the regular voluntary prayers (rawatib) and the night prayer, congregation is not prescribed for them, but there is no harm in doing it occasionally, as the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did when he stood with 'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas, 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud, and Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman.
The questioner : I meant, O honorable Shaykh, praying with them in congregation, especially since they set aside this time.
The Shaykh : I mean, your intention is to be a ma'mum (one praying behind the imam).
The questioner : With them, with the imam.
The Shaykh : There is no harm, there is no harm in praying with him, because this religious innovation (bid'ah) does not make him a disbeliever.
The questioner : And I leave after the prayer.
The Shaykh : I say: It does not make him a disbeliever, I mean, there is no harm in praying behind him, because this religious innovation (bid'ah) is not one that causes disbelief, unless you fear that if you pray behind him, he or others will be led astray because you prayed behind him; in that case, do not pray behind him.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
Another questioner: Peace be upon you and Allah's mercy.
The Shaykh : Peace be upon you and the mercy of Allah.