(The Denial by the Asha'irah, the Mu'tazilah, and the Philosophers of the Exaltation of Allah and His Rising Above the Throne) So the Throne, in the view of our group and your group, *** there is no one above it, without concealment
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The Shaykh :"So the Throne, in the view of our group and your group, *** there is no one above it, without concealment"
Because the Mu'tazilah, the Asha'irah, and those similar to them deny the rising of Allah above the Throne, and they say that Allah is never above the Throne; there is no one above the Throne. The philosophers are likewise, because the philosophers deny Allah in the first place.
"So the Throne, in the view of our group and your group, *** there is no one above it, without concealment
There is nothing above it except non-existence, *** which is nothing in reality or in the minds
Allah is not present there, but rather the *** established non-existence is above the worlds
And Allah is non-existent there in truth *** in essence, contrary to the claim of the Daisan"
Contrary to the claim of the Daisan. The Daisan are a misguided nation. The people of the Sunnah were likened to them. The people of the Sunnah say, "We say that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is present above the Throne," and they say, "No, He is not present above the Throne; there is no one above it." This is because the Asha'irah and the Mu'tazilah deny the rising of Allah above the Throne, and the philosophers deny the existence of Allah altogether. So, according to the opinion of these people and the opinion of those people, there is no one above the Throne.
"This is tawhid (the oneness of Allah) in the view of our group *** and your group, and the reality of gnosis"
So, we and you are the same.
Because the Mu'tazilah, the Asha'irah, and those similar to them deny the rising of Allah above the Throne, and they say that Allah is never above the Throne; there is no one above the Throne. The philosophers are likewise, because the philosophers deny Allah in the first place.
"So the Throne, in the view of our group and your group, *** there is no one above it, without concealment
There is nothing above it except non-existence, *** which is nothing in reality or in the minds
Allah is not present there, but rather the *** established non-existence is above the worlds
And Allah is non-existent there in truth *** in essence, contrary to the claim of the Daisan"
Contrary to the claim of the Daisan. The Daisan are a misguided nation. The people of the Sunnah were likened to them. The people of the Sunnah say, "We say that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is present above the Throne," and they say, "No, He is not present above the Throne; there is no one above it." This is because the Asha'irah and the Mu'tazilah deny the rising of Allah above the Throne, and the philosophers deny the existence of Allah altogether. So, according to the opinion of these people and the opinion of those people, there is no one above the Throne.
"This is tawhid (the oneness of Allah) in the view of our group *** and your group, and the reality of gnosis"
So, we and you are the same.
