Discussion on stubbornness.
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The questioner : And that you understood more than the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) understood, and you do not burden yourselves with this assertion of yours?
The Shaykh : There is no doubt that they are refuted. In reality, they have no argument except stubbornness. The stubborn person is difficult; the stubborn person can never be convinced. The last thing he says is, "Yes, yes," and if he says, "Okay, fine," it means he is defeated. Yes, yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, they say the Messenger... they cannot say, "We know better."
The student: When...
The Shaykh : Yes, you are right. I agree with you on this.
The student: The Lord whose lordship they affirm has no attributes.
The Shaykh : Correct. This is also among the proofs that they are greatly in error, for a Lord who does not have complete attributes cannot be a Lord.
The student: Even in His actions, they deny them. If the Qur'an indicates a specific action, they deny it?
The Shaykh : No, they do not deny what is separate from Allah. They do not deny what is separate from Allah.
Let us return to the book. How?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, the validity of their denial. The validity of their denial. Then he began and said, "And the denial of what Allah affirmed." Let us return to the discussion.
The Shaykh : There is no doubt that they are refuted. In reality, they have no argument except stubbornness. The stubborn person is difficult; the stubborn person can never be convinced. The last thing he says is, "Yes, yes," and if he says, "Okay, fine," it means he is defeated. Yes, yes.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, they say the Messenger... they cannot say, "We know better."
The student: When...
The Shaykh : Yes, you are right. I agree with you on this.
The student: The Lord whose lordship they affirm has no attributes.
The Shaykh : Correct. This is also among the proofs that they are greatly in error, for a Lord who does not have complete attributes cannot be a Lord.
The student: Even in His actions, they deny them. If the Qur'an indicates a specific action, they deny it?
The Shaykh : No, they do not deny what is separate from Allah. They do not deny what is separate from Allah.
Let us return to the book. How?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : No, the validity of their denial. The validity of their denial. Then he began and said, "And the denial of what Allah affirmed." Let us return to the discussion.