What is the ruling if the Shaykh denies the student’s narration? Whom do we believe?
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The reader: Ibn Abi Umar narrated to us, Sufyan ibn Uyaynah narrated to us, from Amr ibn Dinar, from Abu Ma‘bad, the freed slave of Ibn Abbas, that he heard him reporting from Ibn Abbas, who said: Sahih Muslim 583b. Amr said: I mentioned that to Abu Ma‘bad, and he denied it, saying, “I did not narrate this to you.” Amr said: And he had informed me of it before that.
The Shaykh : What is the ruling if the Shaykh denies the student’s narration? Whom do we believe? We say: If the student is trustworthy, then we believe him. Do you understand? Because it is possible that the Shaykh forgot. However, if the Shaykh forgot, he should have said, “I do not remember this.” The difficulty is if he denied it and said, “I did not narrate this to you,” with a definitive denial. Is it said that the student’s narration is rejected because the implication of his Shaykh’s denial is that he fabricated it against him? Fabricating against the Shaykh, especially in a hadith attributed to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), is undoubtedly one of the major sins. But it is said that the most likely scenario is that the Shaykh forgot. And his denial with the phrase “I did not narrate this” is valid even for one who forgot, because at that moment he may be certain that he did not narrate it, so he says, “I did not narrate this.” But if a person knows that he is prone to forgetfulness, and it happens that he said something or did something, it is better for him to say, “I do not remember,” because he might remember and recall the third phrase.
We knew the finishing of the prayer of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) through takbir.
ما كنا نعرف انقضاء صلاة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إلا بالتكبيرThe Shaykh : What is the ruling if the Shaykh denies the student’s narration? Whom do we believe? We say: If the student is trustworthy, then we believe him. Do you understand? Because it is possible that the Shaykh forgot. However, if the Shaykh forgot, he should have said, “I do not remember this.” The difficulty is if he denied it and said, “I did not narrate this to you,” with a definitive denial. Is it said that the student’s narration is rejected because the implication of his Shaykh’s denial is that he fabricated it against him? Fabricating against the Shaykh, especially in a hadith attributed to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), is undoubtedly one of the major sins. But it is said that the most likely scenario is that the Shaykh forgot. And his denial with the phrase “I did not narrate this” is valid even for one who forgot, because at that moment he may be certain that he did not narrate it, so he says, “I did not narrate this.” But if a person knows that he is prone to forgetfulness, and it happens that he said something or did something, it is better for him to say, “I do not remember,” because he might remember and recall the third phrase.