Explanation of the author's statement: "The third: that one of them is definitive and the other is based on conjecture, in which case the definitive is given precedence by the consensus of people of sound mind, because certainty is not dispelled by conjecture."

The Shaykh :"The third is that one of them is definitive and the other is based on conjecture" — so which is given precedence? The definitive one. "The definitive is given precedence by the consensus of people of sound mind, because certainty is not dispelled by conjecture". This is the statement of Shaykh al-Islam (may Allah have mercy on him), and it is a clear statement. "Once this is clear, we say: There is no doubt that the texts have come to affirm the elevation of Allah by His Essence above His creation", or not? For example? And there are many such examples, too numerous to count. But we said: His elevation by His Essence — where did this "Essence" come from?
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The Shaykh : Because when Allah attributes something to Himself, the intended meaning is His Essence. Who is it? It is His Essence, it is His Essence. What is the need to say "He is the One who created the heavens and the earth by His Essence"? Yes. Who is the One who sent down? Allah, His Essence. What is the need to say "He sent down by His Essence"? Who? Allah, His Essence. So what is the need to say "He is the Most High by His Essence"? Because this is something known by anyone who knows the Arabic language: when something is attributed to a thing, the intended meaning is the essence of that thing. If the essence of the thing is not intended, then there must be an indicator (qarinah) pointing to it. Is that clear, everyone? Good. Who? Allah. Allah created. He rose above the Throne — Allah, His Essence. For this reason, when some people objected to some scholars for saying "He rose above the Throne by His Essence," saying that it is not permissible to say "He rose above the Throne by His Essence" because this is an addition to the text, he said to him: I did not add anything; the most I did was clarify and explain in order to refute the statement of those who say "He rose above the Throne" meaning "He took control of it," so that it would not be that He rose above it by His Essence, but rather that He rose above it by His power. Yes. So I wanted to clarify in order to refute this false statement. For this reason, he said: "And He is with them". Yes. "He is by His Essence above His creation, and He is with them". Also, in the issue of elevation, we need to say "by His Essence," because some people say that He is elevated by His attributes, elevated by His attributes, not by His Essence. And we say that He is elevated by His Essence and by His attributes. Yes.