Commentary on Iqtida' al-Sirat al-Mustaqim-04a
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The reader: "And Ahmad said: Abu Mu'awiyyah narrated to us, and Dawud ibn Abi Hind narrated to us, from Amr ibn Shu'ayb, from his father, from his grandfather, who said: ".
The Shaykh : We have "hab" (seed) with us, "hab al-rumman" (pomegranate seed). Make it a copy, and its addition matches the first narration.
The reader:.
The Shaykh : Why? "Hab" (seed).
The reader: I put it as a copy, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : It is closer to the correct version.
The reader: Okay. ".
This is a hadith preserved from Amr ibn Shu'ayb, and people have narrated it from him. Ibn Majah narrated it in his Sunan from the hadith of Abu Mu'awiyyah as we have cited it.
Ahmad wrote this hadith in his letter to al-Mutawakkil, and he used to say to them in his debate on the Day of the Palace: "We have been forbidden to strike the Book of Allah with parts of itself." This was due to his knowledge—may Allah have mercy on him—of the great corruption in the contradiction of this hadith.
Al-Tirmidhi also narrated this meaning from the hadith of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) and said: "It is a good, strange hadith." He said: "And in this chapter are narrations from 'Umar, 'A'ishah, and Anas. This is a broad chapter, and we did not intend to address it here. Rather, the purpose is to point out what is feared for the Muslim community regarding their agreement with the nations before them. For the matter in this hadith—as the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said—is the root of the destruction of the children of Adam: "It was only the dispute over divine decree." From this arose the doctrine of the Zoroastrians who believe in the two principles: light and darkness, and the doctrine of the Sabians and others" .
The Shaykh : I have "madhahib" (doctrines), a copy.
The reader: He referred to it.
The Shaykh : He pointed to it.
The reader: In the copy.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: And the doctrine of the Sabians and others.
The Shaykh : And the doctrines of the Sabians and others. What do you have?
The student: And the doctrine of the Sabians and others.
The Shaykh : That is, "doctrine" instead of "doctrines," a copy.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : "Others" without the "mim," meaning we do not have it with the "mim," yes.
The reader: "And the doctrine of the Sabians and others".
The Shaykh : "Doctrines," a copy.
The reader: "And the doctrines of the Sabians and others who believe in the pre-existence of the world, and the doctrines of many of the Zoroastrians of this Muslim community and others. And this is the doctrine of many of those who denied the divine laws".
The Shaykh : Of the Zoroastrians of the Muslim community?
The student: The Qadariyyah.
The Shaykh : The Qadariyyah? The Qadariyyah who deny divine decree or affirm it?
The student: They deny it.
The Shaykh : Those who deny it and say that man is independent in his actions, that Allah has no connection to it, and he does what he wills without the will of Allah. Some of them, and may Allah protect us, say even without the knowledge of Allah, and Allah does not know it except when it happens, and before that, Allah has no knowledge of it. These are the extremists of the Qadariyyah who, when they first began their vile innovation, said that the matter is newly created and that Allah does not know it except when it happens.
The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) went out one day while the people were discussing divine decree. It was as if pomegranate seeds were being squeezed out of his face from anger.
خرج رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ذات يوم ، والناس يتكلمون في القدر قال : فكأنما تفقأ في وجهه الرمان من الغضبThe Shaykh : We have "hab" (seed) with us, "hab al-rumman" (pomegranate seed). Make it a copy, and its addition matches the first narration.
The reader:
It was as if pomegranate seeds were being squeezed out of his face from anger. He said to them: "Why do you strike the Book of Allah with parts of itself? This is how those who came before you perished." He said: "I have never regretted missing a gathering in which the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) was present more than I regretted missing that gathering because I did not attend it."
قال : فكأنما تفقأ في وجهه الرمان من الغضبThe Shaykh : Why? "Hab" (seed).
The reader: I put it as a copy, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : It is closer to the correct version.
The reader: Okay. "
It was as if pomegranate seeds were being squeezed out of his face from anger. He said to them: "Why do you strike the Book of Allah with parts of itself? This is how those who came before you perished." He said: "I have never regretted missing a gathering in which the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) was present more than I regretted missing that gathering because I did not attend it."
قال : فكأنما تفقأ في وجهه حب الرمان من الغضب قال: فقال لهم : ما لكم تضربون كتاب الله بعضه ببعض ؟ بهذا هلك من كان قبلكم ، قال : فما غبطت نفسي بمجلس فيه رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم لم أشهده ما غبطت نفسي بذلك المجلس أني لم أشهدهThis is a hadith preserved from Amr ibn Shu'ayb, and people have narrated it from him. Ibn Majah narrated it in his Sunan from the hadith of Abu Mu'awiyyah as we have cited it.
Ahmad wrote this hadith in his letter to al-Mutawakkil, and he used to say to them in his debate on the Day of the Palace: "We have been forbidden to strike the Book of Allah with parts of itself." This was due to his knowledge—may Allah have mercy on him—of the great corruption in the contradiction of this hadith.
Al-Tirmidhi also narrated this meaning from the hadith of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) and said: "It is a good, strange hadith." He said: "And in this chapter are narrations from 'Umar, 'A'ishah, and Anas. This is a broad chapter, and we did not intend to address it here. Rather, the purpose is to point out what is feared for the Muslim community regarding their agreement with the nations before them. For the matter in this hadith—as the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said—is the root of the destruction of the children of Adam: "It was only the dispute over divine decree." From this arose the doctrine of the Zoroastrians who believe in the two principles: light and darkness, and the doctrine of the Sabians and others" .
The Shaykh : I have "madhahib" (doctrines), a copy.
The reader: He referred to it.
The Shaykh : He pointed to it.
The reader: In the copy.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: And the doctrine of the Sabians and others.
The Shaykh : And the doctrines of the Sabians and others. What do you have?
The student: And the doctrine of the Sabians and others.
The Shaykh : That is, "doctrine" instead of "doctrines," a copy.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : "Others" without the "mim," meaning we do not have it with the "mim," yes.
The reader: "And the doctrine of the Sabians and others".
The Shaykh : "Doctrines," a copy.
The reader: "And the doctrines of the Sabians and others who believe in the pre-existence of the world, and the doctrines of many of the Zoroastrians of this Muslim community and others. And this is the doctrine of many of those who denied the divine laws".
The Shaykh : Of the Zoroastrians of the Muslim community?
The student: The Qadariyyah.
The Shaykh : The Qadariyyah? The Qadariyyah who deny divine decree or affirm it?
The student: They deny it.
The Shaykh : Those who deny it and say that man is independent in his actions, that Allah has no connection to it, and he does what he wills without the will of Allah. Some of them, and may Allah protect us, say even without the knowledge of Allah, and Allah does not know it except when it happens, and before that, Allah has no knowledge of it. These are the extremists of the Qadariyyah who, when they first began their vile innovation, said that the matter is newly created and that Allah does not know it except when it happens.