What is the meaning of the statement of the people of figurative interpretation among the people of innovation that it was the tree that spoke to Musa?
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The questioner : Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: What do you mean when the Mu'tazilah say that He placed it in the tree?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: The tree spoke, meaning?
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The student: How did the tree speak?
The Shaykh : The scholars said to him, they said, and how do you say[Taha 20:12]
The student: And how, then, is speech created? I didn't understand.
The Shaykh : It is not a problem, it is not a problem now. The created thing was made, the created thing has something, a button you press and then it speaks, or not?
The student: The tape.
The Shaykh : The tape. They say that Allah created sounds and placed them in the tree, and when Musa came, it said to him:[Taha 20:12-13]
The student: This is shirk (associating partners with Allah).
The Shaykh : ...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : And for this reason, the people of innovation never have a sound foundation.
The student: We said the Asha'irah.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: The statement of the Asha'irah, the meaning is a subsisting attribute.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: It is not understood.
The Shaykh : They say that Allah is not speaking with a voice that is heard or with letters, but His speech is a meaning subsisting in Himself. He creates sounds that indicate it, like now, suppose you want to give a lecture, can you not speak first?
The student: Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Where do you put it?
The student: In my mind.
The Shaykh : In your soul, in your mind. They say Allah is like this; His speech is not in the soul of Allah, then He creates things, sounds, that indicate this speech.
Yes, O 'Abd al-Wahhab.
The questioner : Shaykh, we do not say that showing off in worship is greater than the [error] that the Messenger, peace be upon him, [mentioned].
The questioner : Oh Shaykh
The Shaykh : They say one does not enter a lesson into a lesson.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: What do you mean when the Mu'tazilah say that He placed it in the tree?
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: The tree spoke, meaning?
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The student: How did the tree speak?
The Shaykh : The scholars said to him, they said, and how do you say
Indeed, I am your Lord, so remove your sandals
إني أنا ربك فاخلع نعليكThe student: And how, then, is speech created? I didn't understand.
The Shaykh : It is not a problem, it is not a problem now. The created thing was made, the created thing has something, a button you press and then it speaks, or not?
The student: The tape.
The Shaykh : The tape. They say that Allah created sounds and placed them in the tree, and when Musa came, it said to him:
(12) Indeed, I am your Lord, so remove your sandals. Indeed, you are in the sacred valley of Tuwa. (13) And I have chosen you, so listen to what is revealed [to you].
إني أنا ربك فاخلع نعليك إنك بالواد المقدس طُوى وأنا اخترتكThe student: This is shirk (associating partners with Allah).
The Shaykh : ...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : And for this reason, the people of innovation never have a sound foundation.
The student: We said the Asha'irah.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: The statement of the Asha'irah, the meaning is a subsisting attribute.
The Shaykh : Yes
The student: It is not understood.
The Shaykh : They say that Allah is not speaking with a voice that is heard or with letters, but His speech is a meaning subsisting in Himself. He creates sounds that indicate it, like now, suppose you want to give a lecture, can you not speak first?
The student: Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh : Where do you put it?
The student: In my mind.
The Shaykh : In your soul, in your mind. They say Allah is like this; His speech is not in the soul of Allah, then He creates things, sounds, that indicate this speech.
Yes, O 'Abd al-Wahhab.
The questioner : Shaykh, we do not say that showing off in worship is greater than the [error] that the Messenger, peace be upon him, [mentioned].
The questioner : Oh Shaykh
The Shaykh : They say one does not enter a lesson into a lesson.