The discussion regarding those permanently forbidden in marriage.
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The Shaykh : And peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and his Companions, and those who follow them with excellence until the Day of Judgment. It has been established that those forbidden in marriage permanently are of four types.
The questioner : Consanguinity, affinity, mutual imprecation, and milk kinship.
The Shaykh : Now, what are those forbidden by consanguinity by number?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, ..., yes, how many? How many by number?
The questioner : Seven.
The Shaykh : Seven, count them.
The questioner : The mother and the daughter and the paternal aunt.
The Shaykh : ... mentioned in the saying of Allah the Exalted.
The questioner : In the saying of Allah the Exalted[An-Nisa 4:23] .
The Shaykh : Correct, well done, ..., and what are those forbidden by consanguinity by category? Yes?
The questioner : Four categories.
The Shaykh : Four categories.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Descendants, however high they may be.
The Shaykh : Descendants, however high they may be ... a descendant goes up.
The questioner : Ancestors, however high they may be.
The Shaykh : Ancestors, however high they may be.
The questioner : And descendants, however low they may be, and the father's collateral relatives.
The Shaykh : And descendants.
The questioner : Yes, and the father's descendants.
The Shaykh : However low they may be.
The questioner : And however low they may be, and the grandfather's descendants, however high they may be.
The Shaykh : However low they may be.
The questioner : However high the father may be.
The Shaykh : However high he may be, but as for me, it is in the descendants.
The questioner : No, only.
The Shaykh : So, the grandfather's descendants, however high they may be, are specifically for his direct line. Now, who are the grandfather's descendants?
The questioner : The grandfather's descendants?
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : The grandfather's descendants are the brother.
The Shaykh : The brother.
The questioner : The paternal uncle, meaning.
The Shaykh : Huh? The paternal aunt. We are currently speaking about the woman who is forbidden, the paternal aunt.
The questioner : The paternal aunt.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : And the paternal uncle.
The Shaykh : The paternal uncle ... and how, the paternal aunt. Now, the daughter of the paternal aunt?
The questioner : The daughter of the paternal aunt.
The Shaykh : Yes, is she lawful or forbidden?
The questioner : The daughter of the paternal uncle is lawful.
The Shaykh : The daughter of the paternal aunt. Did we not say the grandfather's descendants? We said the grandfather's descendants, and a descendant goes down, huh? Now, the daughter of the paternal uncle?
The questioner : It is lawful.
The Shaykh : Is the daughter of the paternal uncle among the grandfather's descendants? Yes? Answer, yes or no?
The questioner : Among the descendants of the ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, the daughter of the paternal uncle.
The questioner : She is not among the grandfather's descendants.
The Shaykh : Consider this. Is your paternal uncle's daughter among the grandfather's descendants? Your paternal uncle is your father's brother; the grandfather is the one who unites you and him. So you are now saying the grandfather's descendants. We asked now, is the daughter of the paternal uncle lawful or not?
The questioner : It is lawful.
The Shaykh : How is she lawful when you say that among the forbidden are the grandfather's descendants?
The questioner : She is not forbidden.
The Shaykh : She is not among the forbidden. Did I not say the forbidden are the grandfather's descendants? It is contradictory.
The questioner : We said the father's descendants, however high, not if they go down.
The Shaykh : Not if they go down, yes, correct, everyone? We said not if they go down, correct. Now, so these are four types by category, not by number. What is forbidden by milk kinship? Sharafi?
The questioner : What is forbidden by consanguinity.
The Shaykh : What is forbidden by consanguinity. What is the evidence?
The questioner : His saying (peace and blessings be upon him):.
The Shaykh : Now, and in the Qur'an.
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He:[An-Nisa 4:23]
The Shaykh : Before that, or did he say "your mothers"?
The questioner : Now, I will read the verse.
The Shaykh : Yes, we want the verse, but it did not say "your mothers from breastfeeding" at all.
The questioner :[An-Nisa 4:23] .
The Shaykh :[An-Nisa 4:23] Correct, perfect. What are those forbidden by mutual imprecation?
The questioner : The wife ... .
The Shaykh : If he imprecates against her, perfect. What is the cause of mutual imprecation?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, someone else.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : The cause of mutual imprecation is that he accuses her of unlawful sexual intercourse. So when he accuses her of unlawful sexual intercourse, we tell him to present proof. If he does not present proof, we ask her whether she admits it or not. If she admits it, we carry out the fixed punishment against her, otherwise?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, mutual imprecation is performed between them.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Well done. Some scholars mentioned the wives of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him and his family). Is it correct that they are forbidden after him permanently? Yusuf.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : Yes, they are forbidden by the text of the Qur'an.
The Shaykh : Yes, due to the saying of Allah the Exalted[Al-Ahzab 33:53] . Now, we mentioned that there is no benefit from this except that we know that among his characteristics is that his wives are not to be married after him. Now.
The questioner : Consanguinity, affinity, mutual imprecation, and milk kinship.
The Shaykh : Now, what are those forbidden by consanguinity by number?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, ..., yes, how many? How many by number?
The questioner : Seven.
The Shaykh : Seven, count them.
The questioner : The mother and the daughter and the paternal aunt.
The Shaykh : ... mentioned in the saying of Allah the Exalted.
The questioner : In the saying of Allah the Exalted
Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters
حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمْ أُمَّهاتُكُمْ وَبَناتُكُمْ وَأَخَواتُكُمْ وَعَمَّاتُكُمْ وَخالاتُكُمْ وَبَناتُ الْأَخِ وَبَناتُ الْأُخْتِThe Shaykh : Correct, well done, ..., and what are those forbidden by consanguinity by category? Yes?
The questioner : Four categories.
The Shaykh : Four categories.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Descendants, however high they may be.
The Shaykh : Descendants, however high they may be ... a descendant goes up.
The questioner : Ancestors, however high they may be.
The Shaykh : Ancestors, however high they may be.
The questioner : And descendants, however low they may be, and the father's collateral relatives.
The Shaykh : And descendants.
The questioner : Yes, and the father's descendants.
The Shaykh : However low they may be.
The questioner : And however low they may be, and the grandfather's descendants, however high they may be.
The Shaykh : However low they may be.
The questioner : However high the father may be.
The Shaykh : However high he may be, but as for me, it is in the descendants.
The questioner : No, only.
The Shaykh : So, the grandfather's descendants, however high they may be, are specifically for his direct line. Now, who are the grandfather's descendants?
The questioner : The grandfather's descendants?
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : The grandfather's descendants are the brother.
The Shaykh : The brother.
The questioner : The paternal uncle, meaning.
The Shaykh : Huh? The paternal aunt. We are currently speaking about the woman who is forbidden, the paternal aunt.
The questioner : The paternal aunt.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : And the paternal uncle.
The Shaykh : The paternal uncle ... and how, the paternal aunt. Now, the daughter of the paternal aunt?
The questioner : The daughter of the paternal aunt.
The Shaykh : Yes, is she lawful or forbidden?
The questioner : The daughter of the paternal uncle is lawful.
The Shaykh : The daughter of the paternal aunt. Did we not say the grandfather's descendants? We said the grandfather's descendants, and a descendant goes down, huh? Now, the daughter of the paternal uncle?
The questioner : It is lawful.
The Shaykh : Is the daughter of the paternal uncle among the grandfather's descendants? Yes? Answer, yes or no?
The questioner : Among the descendants of the ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, the daughter of the paternal uncle.
The questioner : She is not among the grandfather's descendants.
The Shaykh : Consider this. Is your paternal uncle's daughter among the grandfather's descendants? Your paternal uncle is your father's brother; the grandfather is the one who unites you and him. So you are now saying the grandfather's descendants. We asked now, is the daughter of the paternal uncle lawful or not?
The questioner : It is lawful.
The Shaykh : How is she lawful when you say that among the forbidden are the grandfather's descendants?
The questioner : She is not forbidden.
The Shaykh : She is not among the forbidden. Did I not say the forbidden are the grandfather's descendants? It is contradictory.
The questioner : We said the father's descendants, however high, not if they go down.
The Shaykh : Not if they go down, yes, correct, everyone? We said not if they go down, correct. Now, so these are four types by category, not by number. What is forbidden by milk kinship? Sharafi?
The questioner : What is forbidden by consanguinity.
The Shaykh : What is forbidden by consanguinity. What is the evidence?
The questioner : His saying (peace and blessings be upon him):
For what is forbidden by milk kinship is what is forbidden by consanguinity
فإنه يحرم بالرضاع ما يحرم بالنسبThe Shaykh : Now, and in the Qur'an.
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He:
your sisters through nursing
وأخواتكم من الرضاعةThe Shaykh : Before that, or did he say "your mothers"?
The questioner : Now, I will read the verse.
The Shaykh : Yes, we want the verse, but it did not say "your mothers from breastfeeding" at all.
The questioner :
your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing
وَأُمَّهاتُكُمُ اللاَّتِي أَرْضَعْنَكُمْ وَأَخَواتُكُمْ مِنَ الرَّضاعَةِThe Shaykh :
your sisters through nursing
وَأَخَواتُكُمْ مِنَ الرَّضاعَةِThe questioner : The wife ... .
The Shaykh : If he imprecates against her, perfect. What is the cause of mutual imprecation?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, someone else.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : The cause of mutual imprecation is that he accuses her of unlawful sexual intercourse. So when he accuses her of unlawful sexual intercourse, we tell him to present proof. If he does not present proof, we ask her whether she admits it or not. If she admits it, we carry out the fixed punishment against her, otherwise?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, mutual imprecation is performed between them.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Well done. Some scholars mentioned the wives of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him and his family). Is it correct that they are forbidden after him permanently? Yusuf.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : Yes, they are forbidden by the text of the Qur'an.
The Shaykh : Yes, due to the saying of Allah the Exalted