If one of them is an adult and the other is not, is the hadd applied to both?
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The questioner : Shaykh, if one of them is an adult and the other is not?
The Shaykh : Each has his own ruling; each has his own ruling, yes?
The questioner : We said in the sermon that it should not contain cursing or abuse, if a person, I mean, brings this hadith, this hadith... then mentions a specific group known for permitting this, and abuses them specifically?
The Shaykh : What is this?
The questioner : I say: Here the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:Bulugh al-Maram 8:56 This is abuse.
The Shaykh : Cursed.
The questioner : Yes, and the scholars say: The sermon, I mean, it was legislated for reminding, I mean for reminding, and abuse is not mentioned in it.
The Shaykh : Abuse?
The questioner : Yes, it contains cursing, and cursing is abuse. If a person, for example, says "May Allah curse such and such," for example, the Shi'ah permit a man to approach a woman in her rear, so is this...
The Shaykh : But was this a sermon of the Messenger? Did he say it in a sermon?
The questioner : Perhaps a person wanted to say it to the people to teach them.
The Shaykh : Yes, was it in a sermon?
The questioner : No, I mean, if a person were to give a sermon about sodomy.
The Shaykh : Yes, he would present this hadith, there is no harm.
The questioner : I mean, what...
The Shaykh : ...
The questioner : I say they say the sermon is invalidated.
The Shaykh : What is invalidated?
The questioner : ... If he preaches the Friday sermon and he...
The Shaykh : Who says that?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : This is not abuse of a specific person; it is abuse of a specific description. And there is a difference between specifying by person and specifying by description. As for specifying by person, if he deserves the curse, there is no harm. Suppose a tyrant from among the disbelievers died upon disbelief, no...
The Shaykh : Each has his own ruling; each has his own ruling, yes?
The questioner : We said in the sermon that it should not contain cursing or abuse, if a person, I mean, brings this hadith, this hadith... then mentions a specific group known for permitting this, and abuses them specifically?
The Shaykh : What is this?
The questioner : I say: Here the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
He who has intercourse with a woman through her anus is accursed
لعن الله من أتى امرأة في دبرهاThe Shaykh : Cursed.
The questioner : Yes, and the scholars say: The sermon, I mean, it was legislated for reminding, I mean for reminding, and abuse is not mentioned in it.
The Shaykh : Abuse?
The questioner : Yes, it contains cursing, and cursing is abuse. If a person, for example, says "May Allah curse such and such," for example, the Shi'ah permit a man to approach a woman in her rear, so is this...
The Shaykh : But was this a sermon of the Messenger? Did he say it in a sermon?
The questioner : Perhaps a person wanted to say it to the people to teach them.
The Shaykh : Yes, was it in a sermon?
The questioner : No, I mean, if a person were to give a sermon about sodomy.
The Shaykh : Yes, he would present this hadith, there is no harm.
The questioner : I mean, what...
The Shaykh : ...
The questioner : I say they say the sermon is invalidated.
The Shaykh : What is invalidated?
The questioner : ... If he preaches the Friday sermon and he...
The Shaykh : Who says that?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : This is not abuse of a specific person; it is abuse of a specific description. And there is a difference between specifying by person and specifying by description. As for specifying by person, if he deserves the curse, there is no harm. Suppose a tyrant from among the disbelievers died upon disbelief, no...