Issue: A man found a man committing zina with his wife; is his punishment in the category of repelling an aggressor?
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The Shaykh : All right, another example: a man found a man with his wife, may Allah protect us, committing zina with her. Is his punishment in the category of repelling an aggressor?
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : The correct view is that it is not in the category of repelling an aggressor. If he finds him, he says, "O so-and-so, fear Allah, do not violate the sanctity of people." The other might say, "May Allah reward you with good," and he gets up and leaves. Yes, but it is in the category of punishing the transgressor. If he finds him with his family, he may take the sword and cut him in two, cutting the man in two. Yes, from the place where the act of fornication was performed, he looks for the place of the act, then strikes him with the sword until he is divided, so that his chest remains above and his lower part below. Without warning?
The questioner : Without warning.
The Shaykh : What? Without warning, because this, as the Shaykh al-Islam also said, is in the category of punishing the transgressor. This incident occurred during the time of 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him). A man entered his home and found a man with his family, so he took the sword and cut him in two. The awliya (close friends of Allah) of the murdered man demanded his blood, then they went up to 'Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him). The man said, "By Allah, O Commander of the Faithful, if there was anyone between the thighs of my family, then I have killed him. I did not go to the market or to people's houses to kill people." Then he said, "What do you say?" They said, "Yes." So 'Umar took the sword, shook it, and said to him, "If they return, return [to the sword]", meaning this is in the category of punishing the transgressor. So be careful with these two issues: looking is in the category of closing the door, and the second is if he finds a man with his family committing fornication, this is not in the category of repelling an aggressor, but it is in the category of punishing the transgressor, meaning that we punish this doer without warning.
The questioner : Shaykh ... .
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : The correct view is that it is not in the category of repelling an aggressor. If he finds him, he says, "O so-and-so, fear Allah, do not violate the sanctity of people." The other might say, "May Allah reward you with good," and he gets up and leaves. Yes, but it is in the category of punishing the transgressor. If he finds him with his family, he may take the sword and cut him in two, cutting the man in two. Yes, from the place where the act of fornication was performed, he looks for the place of the act, then strikes him with the sword until he is divided, so that his chest remains above and his lower part below. Without warning?
The questioner : Without warning.
The Shaykh : What? Without warning, because this, as the Shaykh al-Islam also said, is in the category of punishing the transgressor. This incident occurred during the time of 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him). A man entered his home and found a man with his family, so he took the sword and cut him in two. The awliya (close friends of Allah) of the murdered man demanded his blood, then they went up to 'Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him). The man said, "By Allah, O Commander of the Faithful, if there was anyone between the thighs of my family, then I have killed him. I did not go to the market or to people's houses to kill people." Then he said, "What do you say?" They said, "Yes." So 'Umar took the sword, shook it, and said to him, "If they return, return [to the sword]", meaning this is in the category of punishing the transgressor. So be careful with these two issues: looking is in the category of closing the door, and the second is if he finds a man with his family committing fornication, this is not in the category of repelling an aggressor, but it is in the category of punishing the transgressor, meaning that we punish this doer without warning.
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