What is the detailed ruling for one who suffers from incontinence of wind or urine, particularly in prayer?

The questioner : Regarding the detailed rulings, specifically for one who suffers from incontinence of wind or urine, particularly in prayer, meaning...

The Shaykh : First, in my opinion, if the afflicted person has not done so, he must seek treatment, based on his saying (peace and blessings be upon him): . If he fulfills this obligation and is not granted a cure, then what you asked about applies. First, he must perform wudu for every prayer he intends to pray, and it does not harm him in this state if something from the known and customary nullifiers of wudu comes out of him. Second: He must, within the limits of his ability, naturally, use some napkins or rags and place them in the place where impurity is likely to come out, so that it does not affect the clothing but only affects this rag, making it easy for him to either throw it away. Today, this kind of absorbent paper replaces many napkins or rags; he throws it on the ground, and his inner clothes remain pure. So, he is only required to do these two things: the first is to perform wudu for every prayer, and the second is to minimize the leakage of impurity onto his body and his clothes by using these napkins. If he performs wudu for every prayer, and the prayer he intends to pray is one he can pray in congregation, he should not perform wudu until after the time has entered. It is not befitting for one who has an excuse to prepare for the prayer he will pray except after the time has entered. When the time enters, he performs wudu and then goes to the mosque. It does not harm him if something comes out of him after that, because he will not be able to pray this prayer with any other wudu; he must purify himself for it, and so on.

The questioner : There is a follow-up, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh : Wait a moment.

The questioner : ... that this condition comes in intervals, not continuously, so what...?

The Shaykh : By Allah, this is a matter that requires some precision. The questioner cannot be too philosophical in defining these intervals; rather, the matter concerns the afflicted person. If these intervals are the predominant state for him, the predominant state for him, then by this predominance, he can be included in the rulings for those with an excuse. But if the opposite is the case, meaning it rarely happens to him, then he does not have this dispensation. He must pray while he is pure and his clothes are pure, everything. And if this thing comes out of him while he is praying, his prayer is invalid.

The questioner : Suppose he prayed, for example, the obligatory prayer, and something came out of him, and the obligatory prayer ended. Does he pray the sunnah with the same wudu, or does he perform wudu a second time?

The Shaykh : Meaning, after he prayed the obligatory prayer, something came out of him.

The questioner : During the obligatory prayer.

The Shaykh : During the obligatory prayer. So you return to the first state, right?

The questioner : The first continuous state.

The Shaykh : The continuous one. Yes, yes. This issue, in reality, my opinion fluctuates on it. Sometimes we say he performs wudu for the sunnah as he did for the obligatory prayer, because this is the apparent meaning of his saying (peace and blessings be upon him): to the woman with irregular bleeding, . And sometimes I say it is as if it is one unit, where the sunnah is attached to the obligatory prayer. But in short, I do not have a decisive answer on the matter. Yes, Abu Talal, do we need to move on to something?

The questioner : Yes, he returned to me regarding the impure ones who plot against Islam. He said: These people go to the lands of Islam to call to Christianity or to change the beliefs of Muslims. So I answered them with the same answer. What was the question...?