What is your opinion of a mosque where the first four rak'ahs of tarawih are prayed with one imam, and then another imam comes and completes the prayer and witr with them?
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The questioner : May Allah reward you with good. Four rak'ahs with the people, because the people are not, approximately the mosques are not all able to apply the Sunnah, and the length of standing and so on, so they pray four rak'ahs, for example, an imam prays four rak'ahs and leaves, and another one completes four rak'ahs and witr with the people of the neighborhood, for example, and then they delay four rak'ahs, for example, until after midnight?
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you peace.
The questioner : They delay the second four rak'ahs until after midnight, and the imam completes them with them, meaning he divides them into two periods?
The Shaykh : Yes, what is the purpose of the division first? And secondly: is it possible not to divide?
The questioner : It is not possible because the people are approximately those who are present in the neighborhood!
The Shaykh : If it is not possible, then what is the question? Something that is not possible?
The questioner : The question is: for example, we are in the neighborhood, not all the people, for example, come, we tell them: that we want us to prolong standing in the last ten nights always, they do not accept, especially when there are old men.
The Shaykh : No, I do not want to sit, because I wanted to pray two rak'ahs of greeting the mosque so that we do not waste the time of the congregation, I will complete standing, because I will be here only until seven o'clock.
The questioner : So the imam is not able to pray, for example, a long prayer of standing, eight rak'ahs, with the people present, so to satisfy both parties, for example, some of the brothers want to prolong standing, the imam prays four rak'ahs with the people of the neighborhood, and leaves, and a second imam enters, prays the four rak'ahs and witr with the people of the neighborhood, here they leave, a group remains who want to prolong standing, for example, until after midnight, they recite in four rak'ahs throughout, meaning they prolong them!
The Shaykh : Okay, how many imams have this method?
The questioner : Two.
The Shaykh : Two?
The questioner : Two.
The Shaykh : Okay, when does this second one pray?
The questioner : He prays first, four rak'ahs, for example, with.
The Shaykh : When does the second imam pray?
The questioner : He prays the first four with the imam and leaves, meaning he prays four and rests four, meaning he does not complete the first eight, four and leaves, a second imam enters, for example, and prays four!
The Shaykh : My brother, you are saying a second imam enters.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : After the first imam prayed?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, and those who pray at the end of the night?
The questioner : One comes to rest him.
Another questioner : Yes, one enters in his place to rest him from the ma'mum or from!
The Shaykh : My brother, I do not care about my details now.
The questioner : The imam might be praying the four rak'ahs with the first imam.
The Shaykh : This is understood.
The student : Did you understand me?
The Shaykh : The imam prays?!
The student : With the imam, he prays as a ma'mum.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : With the imam, then, meaning the imam changes, this one leaves and this one enters in his place only, on the basis that they prolong standing until after midnight, this might be the question?
The Shaykh : The first imam prays, like all the mosques, at the beginning of 'Isha, he prays the obligatory 'Isha, and after that they pray the tarawih prayer.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : You say he prays four rak'ahs.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, did the one who prayed four rak'ahs leave?
The questioner : He left.
The Shaykh : This imam?
The questioner : Yes, he left.
The Shaykh : Okay, and a second imam took his place?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, does he complete the tarawih?
The questioner : The one who entered in his place, with him, they prolong.
The Shaykh : My brother, may Allah guide you, stay with me.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Does this second one complete the tarawih? Say yes or no?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, does he complete the tarawih, how long does his prayer take?
The questioner : Meaning, approximately, a quarter of an hour for four rak'ahs!
The Shaykh : Okay, what is the difference between the second and the first?
The questioner : Also, the question was not understood.
The Shaykh : You did not clarify!
The questioner : I want to clarify.
The Shaykh : No, no, stay seated, stay seated, sit down.
The questioner : You are not able to convey the question.
The Shaykh : The first imam prayed four rak'ahs.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Of the standing?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Meaning, at the beginning he prayed 'Isha.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And then he prayed the Sunnah of 'Isha, then he prayed with them four rak'ahs of the tarawih prayer?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we going?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : How long did the prayer take?
The questioner : For example, a quarter of an hour.
The Shaykh : Do not tell me for example, tell me the reality.
The questioner : A quarter of an hour.
The Shaykh : A quarter of an hour, okay, why does this imam not complete?
The questioner : Because the recitation he recites, he recites, for example, for the people, he is accustomed to five verses.
The Shaykh : That is enough, that is enough, his recitation is little, meaning!
The questioner : Little, yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, the second imam.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Prayed four other rak'ahs?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The total became eight?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : How long did this prayer take?
The student : Approximately, like him, a quarter of an hour.
The Shaykh : So what is the difference, my brother, between the first and the second?
The questioner : We want to prolong the recitation, and there is no length of recitation, my Shaykh, the meaning is, allow me, the imam prayed four rak'ahs!
Another questioner : Your question is long.
The questioner : My brother, what is the question, by Allah, meaning!
The Shaykh : Four rak'ahs a quarter of an hour or a third of an hour, and a second four rak'ahs a third of an hour!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And you say the second rak'ahs have a longer recitation! How did the time become, be patient, how did the time become one and the recitation longer?! If you said: for example, four rak'ahs take half an hour, while the first four rak'ahs take a third of an hour, a quarter of an hour, this is reasonable.
The questioner : My intention is that the prayer that the people of the neighborhood pray, four rak'ahs, the eight rak'ahs all take half an hour, he prayed four rak'ahs and a second imam entered and completed with the people of the neighborhood, did you understand how, then they delayed.
The Shaykh : My brother, I understood, but I want to know, to give you the answer, for what is this division?
The questioner : The division is so that the second four rak'ahs, they prolong standing in them.
The Shaykh : They are not prolonging standing.
The questioner : No, not with the congregation, they complete them after midnight.
The Shaykh : What is this question!
The questioner : The imam leaves after the first four rak'ahs.
Another questioner : He prays the prayer in two periods, a period he leads the people, and the other period is at midnight.
The Shaykh : This first imam?
The questioner : The first imam, the regular imam.
The Shaykh : Okay, how long does his prayer take at the end of the night?
The questioner : Allah knows, more.
Another questioner : For example, an hour and a half, the second four rak'ahs, he wants to recite a part in them, the second four rak'ahs.
The Shaykh : The picture is completely different.
The questioner : But this is my intention!
The Shaykh : A strange division, my brother, if the intention of the second imam, who prays the second four, if his intention is prolonging.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Now here the brother is saying here: that the first imam himself completes the tarawih at the end of the night for the sake of prolonging?!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is this chaos, for what?! If his intention is prolonging, this first imam prays four light rak'ahs for the people of the neighborhood, correct?! Then he completes it himself at the end of the night, so that the prayer is longer, and these four rak'ahs: between the first four and the last four, for what?
The questioner : The four rak'ahs that they pray first, the imam, for the people of the neighborhood, as you mentioned, four light rak'ahs, and a second imam enters and completes with the people of the neighborhood four light rak'ahs.
The Shaykh : I understood it, my brother, we are saying why, why?
The questioner : To prolong standing.
The Shaykh : He is prolonging standing himself when the first imam is completing the tarawih, he is prolonging it again at the end of the night, so there are three congregations here, the first imam prays four rak'ahs, the second imam prays four rak'ahs, the first imam returns and completes his prayer with four other rak'ahs, no, this picture is not permissible at all, bring your questions, the time will end!
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you peace.
The questioner : They delay the second four rak'ahs until after midnight, and the imam completes them with them, meaning he divides them into two periods?
The Shaykh : Yes, what is the purpose of the division first? And secondly: is it possible not to divide?
The questioner : It is not possible because the people are approximately those who are present in the neighborhood!
The Shaykh : If it is not possible, then what is the question? Something that is not possible?
The questioner : The question is: for example, we are in the neighborhood, not all the people, for example, come, we tell them: that we want us to prolong standing in the last ten nights always, they do not accept, especially when there are old men.
The Shaykh : No, I do not want to sit, because I wanted to pray two rak'ahs of greeting the mosque so that we do not waste the time of the congregation, I will complete standing, because I will be here only until seven o'clock.
The questioner : So the imam is not able to pray, for example, a long prayer of standing, eight rak'ahs, with the people present, so to satisfy both parties, for example, some of the brothers want to prolong standing, the imam prays four rak'ahs with the people of the neighborhood, and leaves, and a second imam enters, prays the four rak'ahs and witr with the people of the neighborhood, here they leave, a group remains who want to prolong standing, for example, until after midnight, they recite in four rak'ahs throughout, meaning they prolong them!
The Shaykh : Okay, how many imams have this method?
The questioner : Two.
The Shaykh : Two?
The questioner : Two.
The Shaykh : Okay, when does this second one pray?
The questioner : He prays first, four rak'ahs, for example, with.
The Shaykh : When does the second imam pray?
The questioner : He prays the first four with the imam and leaves, meaning he prays four and rests four, meaning he does not complete the first eight, four and leaves, a second imam enters, for example, and prays four!
The Shaykh : My brother, you are saying a second imam enters.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : After the first imam prayed?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, and those who pray at the end of the night?
The questioner : One comes to rest him.
Another questioner : Yes, one enters in his place to rest him from the ma'mum or from!
The Shaykh : My brother, I do not care about my details now.
The questioner : The imam might be praying the four rak'ahs with the first imam.
The Shaykh : This is understood.
The student : Did you understand me?
The Shaykh : The imam prays?!
The student : With the imam, he prays as a ma'mum.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : With the imam, then, meaning the imam changes, this one leaves and this one enters in his place only, on the basis that they prolong standing until after midnight, this might be the question?
The Shaykh : The first imam prays, like all the mosques, at the beginning of 'Isha, he prays the obligatory 'Isha, and after that they pray the tarawih prayer.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : You say he prays four rak'ahs.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, did the one who prayed four rak'ahs leave?
The questioner : He left.
The Shaykh : This imam?
The questioner : Yes, he left.
The Shaykh : Okay, and a second imam took his place?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, does he complete the tarawih?
The questioner : The one who entered in his place, with him, they prolong.
The Shaykh : My brother, may Allah guide you, stay with me.
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Does this second one complete the tarawih? Say yes or no?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, does he complete the tarawih, how long does his prayer take?
The questioner : Meaning, approximately, a quarter of an hour for four rak'ahs!
The Shaykh : Okay, what is the difference between the second and the first?
The questioner : Also, the question was not understood.
The Shaykh : You did not clarify!
The questioner : I want to clarify.
The Shaykh : No, no, stay seated, stay seated, sit down.
The questioner : You are not able to convey the question.
The Shaykh : The first imam prayed four rak'ahs.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Of the standing?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Meaning, at the beginning he prayed 'Isha.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And then he prayed the Sunnah of 'Isha, then he prayed with them four rak'ahs of the tarawih prayer?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we going?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : How long did the prayer take?
The questioner : For example, a quarter of an hour.
The Shaykh : Do not tell me for example, tell me the reality.
The questioner : A quarter of an hour.
The Shaykh : A quarter of an hour, okay, why does this imam not complete?
The questioner : Because the recitation he recites, he recites, for example, for the people, he is accustomed to five verses.
The Shaykh : That is enough, that is enough, his recitation is little, meaning!
The questioner : Little, yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, the second imam.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Prayed four other rak'ahs?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : The total became eight?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : How long did this prayer take?
The student : Approximately, like him, a quarter of an hour.
The Shaykh : So what is the difference, my brother, between the first and the second?
The questioner : We want to prolong the recitation, and there is no length of recitation, my Shaykh, the meaning is, allow me, the imam prayed four rak'ahs!
Another questioner : Your question is long.
The questioner : My brother, what is the question, by Allah, meaning!
The Shaykh : Four rak'ahs a quarter of an hour or a third of an hour, and a second four rak'ahs a third of an hour!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And you say the second rak'ahs have a longer recitation! How did the time become, be patient, how did the time become one and the recitation longer?! If you said: for example, four rak'ahs take half an hour, while the first four rak'ahs take a third of an hour, a quarter of an hour, this is reasonable.
The questioner : My intention is that the prayer that the people of the neighborhood pray, four rak'ahs, the eight rak'ahs all take half an hour, he prayed four rak'ahs and a second imam entered and completed with the people of the neighborhood, did you understand how, then they delayed.
The Shaykh : My brother, I understood, but I want to know, to give you the answer, for what is this division?
The questioner : The division is so that the second four rak'ahs, they prolong standing in them.
The Shaykh : They are not prolonging standing.
The questioner : No, not with the congregation, they complete them after midnight.
The Shaykh : What is this question!
The questioner : The imam leaves after the first four rak'ahs.
Another questioner : He prays the prayer in two periods, a period he leads the people, and the other period is at midnight.
The Shaykh : This first imam?
The questioner : The first imam, the regular imam.
The Shaykh : Okay, how long does his prayer take at the end of the night?
The questioner : Allah knows, more.
Another questioner : For example, an hour and a half, the second four rak'ahs, he wants to recite a part in them, the second four rak'ahs.
The Shaykh : The picture is completely different.
The questioner : But this is my intention!
The Shaykh : A strange division, my brother, if the intention of the second imam, who prays the second four, if his intention is prolonging.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Now here the brother is saying here: that the first imam himself completes the tarawih at the end of the night for the sake of prolonging?!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is this chaos, for what?! If his intention is prolonging, this first imam prays four light rak'ahs for the people of the neighborhood, correct?! Then he completes it himself at the end of the night, so that the prayer is longer, and these four rak'ahs: between the first four and the last four, for what?
The questioner : The four rak'ahs that they pray first, the imam, for the people of the neighborhood, as you mentioned, four light rak'ahs, and a second imam enters and completes with the people of the neighborhood four light rak'ahs.
The Shaykh : I understood it, my brother, we are saying why, why?
The questioner : To prolong standing.
The Shaykh : He is prolonging standing himself when the first imam is completing the tarawih, he is prolonging it again at the end of the night, so there are three congregations here, the first imam prays four rak'ahs, the second imam prays four rak'ahs, the first imam returns and completes his prayer with four other rak'ahs, no, this picture is not permissible at all, bring your questions, the time will end!
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