What is the ruling on eating lamb meat if the method of slaughter involves stunning, and the animal is inflated and skinned before it is completely dead after the slaughter?
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The student : The method of slaughter is as follows: The sheep come in a pen, and they are passed through a chute, let us say, or narrow passages like that.
The Shaykh : Narrow passages.
The student : Narrow passages that take one sheep at a time.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : Then, on this chute or narrow passage, there is a man, and he is called an old man, meaning he has a beard and such, and he has an electric shock device, which is like gloves or hands like this. He places it on the sheep for a moment, and it loses consciousness.
The Shaykh : It loses consciousness.
The student : It loses consciousness. Two workers take it and put it on a rack. It moves along, and there is one holding a knife who cuts its throat.
The Shaykh : Not at all?
The student: No.
The Shaykh : He slaughters it.
The student : He slaughters it, yes.
The Shaykh: All right.
The student : It moves along another step, and there is another one holding an inflator who inflates it, and it swells up, and another one cuts open its belly, and the third one does this until it is finished in this manner. So the witness says: The apparent violation is that the sheep is slaughtered, inflated, skinned, and cut up before it is allowed to die peacefully, yes.
Another student: Is this here with us?
The student : It is in the slaughterhouse in Amman, what do you mean?!
Another student: Well, how do we eat the meat?!
The student : So I said, I want to show you this picture, my Shaykh, so we can see. Honestly, the matter is not easy!!
The Shaykh : It means that eating local meat is also forbidden!!
The student : Allah is the Greatest!! Because it did not die, meaning.
The Shaykh : O Most Beautiful, O Most Beautiful, Allah is the Greatest!!
The student : And I think Khalid slaughters with his own hand?
Another student: No, Khalid slaughters for them, not on his own initiative!!
The student : By Allah!!
The student : Of course, no.
The Shaykh : First: Does the stunning kill it or not?!
The student : It does not kill it, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : So if it does not kill it, then the matter becomes somewhat easier, if we know that when it reaches the knife man, he slaughters it before it dies...
The student : Of course, my Shaykh, when it reaches the knife, or let us say the slaughterer, he slaughters it while it is in a state of unconsciousness.
The Shaykh : My brother, I understood.
The student : It does not die, my Shaykh, even.
The Shaykh : This is what I am telling you, before it loses consciousness.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : We said: Does he slaughter it before it dies or after? I told him: No, before it dies.
The student : Before it dies, yes.
The Shaykh : Well, now, whether it has consciousness or not, because the phrase "he slaughters it before it dies" means he slaughtered it while it was alive!
The student : While it was alive, yes.
The Shaykh : But the second problem is: What do we call it? The stunning is torture of the animal, which is not permissible.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And also after the slaughter, in that they did not leave it until it gave its last breath, and they started inflating and skinning and so on.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : This is another form of torture of the animal besides the stunning, but all these things, if we assume that the stunning did not kill it, do not make the slaughtered animal forbidden, meaning in terms of eating. The purpose of slaughter is to let the blood flow from the throat, and this has occurred.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But it is the one who does not guarantee that the stunning is fatal.
The student : Yes.
The Shaykh : Here is the problem.
The student : So if the stunning is not fatal, the issue is only from the side that the sin is upon the one who performs this act.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The Shaykh : Narrow passages.
The student : Narrow passages that take one sheep at a time.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : Then, on this chute or narrow passage, there is a man, and he is called an old man, meaning he has a beard and such, and he has an electric shock device, which is like gloves or hands like this. He places it on the sheep for a moment, and it loses consciousness.
The Shaykh : It loses consciousness.
The student : It loses consciousness. Two workers take it and put it on a rack. It moves along, and there is one holding a knife who cuts its throat.
The Shaykh : Not at all?
The student: No.
The Shaykh : He slaughters it.
The student : He slaughters it, yes.
The Shaykh: All right.
The student : It moves along another step, and there is another one holding an inflator who inflates it, and it swells up, and another one cuts open its belly, and the third one does this until it is finished in this manner. So the witness says: The apparent violation is that the sheep is slaughtered, inflated, skinned, and cut up before it is allowed to die peacefully, yes.
Another student: Is this here with us?
The student : It is in the slaughterhouse in Amman, what do you mean?!
Another student: Well, how do we eat the meat?!
The student : So I said, I want to show you this picture, my Shaykh, so we can see. Honestly, the matter is not easy!!
The Shaykh : It means that eating local meat is also forbidden!!
The student : Allah is the Greatest!! Because it did not die, meaning.
The Shaykh : O Most Beautiful, O Most Beautiful, Allah is the Greatest!!
The student : And I think Khalid slaughters with his own hand?
Another student: No, Khalid slaughters for them, not on his own initiative!!
The student : By Allah!!
The student : Of course, no.
The Shaykh : First: Does the stunning kill it or not?!
The student : It does not kill it, my Shaykh.
The Shaykh : So if it does not kill it, then the matter becomes somewhat easier, if we know that when it reaches the knife man, he slaughters it before it dies...
The student : Of course, my Shaykh, when it reaches the knife, or let us say the slaughterer, he slaughters it while it is in a state of unconsciousness.
The Shaykh : My brother, I understood.
The student : It does not die, my Shaykh, even.
The Shaykh : This is what I am telling you, before it loses consciousness.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : We said: Does he slaughter it before it dies or after? I told him: No, before it dies.
The student : Before it dies, yes.
The Shaykh : Well, now, whether it has consciousness or not, because the phrase "he slaughters it before it dies" means he slaughtered it while it was alive!
The student : While it was alive, yes.
The Shaykh : But the second problem is: What do we call it? The stunning is torture of the animal, which is not permissible.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : And also after the slaughter, in that they did not leave it until it gave its last breath, and they started inflating and skinning and so on.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : This is another form of torture of the animal besides the stunning, but all these things, if we assume that the stunning did not kill it, do not make the slaughtered animal forbidden, meaning in terms of eating. The purpose of slaughter is to let the blood flow from the throat, and this has occurred.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But it is the one who does not guarantee that the stunning is fatal.
The student : Yes.
The Shaykh : Here is the problem.
The student : So if the stunning is not fatal, the issue is only from the side that the sin is upon the one who performs this act.
The Shaykh: Yes.
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