When is it permissible for women to go for treatment to male doctors?
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The student : He goes to the women, and sometimes he performs a type of massage.
Another student: May Allah kill him.
The student : He has no knowledge, or rather, he has not studied this matter through academic study.
Another student: May Allah kill him.
Another student: Except that it is due to the ignorance of the women.
The Shaykh : Even if he had studied, this is a practice that is not permissible. Do you know this person?
Another student: I do not know him.
The Shaykh : Or have you heard of him? Ah.
The student : Where is he, in Suwailih, in what place? You do not know his name? You do not know his name?
Another student: Abu Talal al-Malaki.
Another student: Al-Malaki.
Another student: Ah, Abu Talal? He does not do massages, no, he has experience with the disc, and I know his method, because my father (may Allah have mercy on him), before his passing, naturally he had an old disc problem, so they described the man to me, so I went to him at his house, which is on a hill in Suwailih, from one side.
Another student: No, and you are truthful... I went and brought the man, he does not do massages or anything, he does not expose the patient unless necessity demands it, he is a man with mindfulness of Allah, he does not massage or anything, he does not expose the women, I even saw him with my father, he did not expose my father, my father was just wrapped in his underwear, he would press on the areas where there might be pain, and when he reaches a certain point he says "here is it," and he makes a movement like this with his finger, like a press, not a massage, and then he holds the legs and makes a movement like this, I do not know how he twists the leg, after he inserts the leg he brings it to the thigh and makes a movement like this, a quick movement, this is all he does, Abu, the whole matter takes him at most ten minutes.
Another student: Did he study medicine?
The Shaykh : Apparently this is a profession that does not seem to be specialized to this man, there is another one in Zarqa, Abu Ahmad told me about him.Abu Layla : Because his mother also complains of this.
The student : This is our Shaykh, and you are truthful, in Zarqa.
The Shaykh : In Zarqa. But he comes to Zarqa.
The student : This one is Chechen.
Another student : ...
Another student: No, Abu Munir, this is the one he means, that man is a Chechen who learned it.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is it.
The student : He learned it from an Iraqi, this Iraqi, this Iraqi has a strange and odd job, he has a short stick like this, he puts it on the place of pain, and then his wife, he tells her "pull the leg" when he gives her permission after the pressure, the whole thing takes two minutes, no more and no less, he is very fast, so this man learned from him.
Another student: Is there benefit from the treatment?
Another student: By Allah, they say that some of them benefited from him.
The questioner : Is it permissible to take women to him?
The Shaykh : Is it permissible to take women to doctors in the last times, or not? For necessity.
The student : ... the doctor, I mean, or rather, he is able to treat.
The student : No, there is no problem, but I am like what the brother Jamal said, the picture conveyed to the brother Jamal is not correct.
The Shaykh : There is exaggeration in it.
The student : No, he is a good man.
The Shaykh : Treating women by men is permissible within the limits of necessity, and necessity is estimated according to its extent. From the details of estimating necessity according to its extent is that there is no woman to treat this patient, so in this case she is forced to go to a man. Then this man, when he treats her, also treats her within the limits of necessity. For example, for example, and this is a very realistic matter, he wants to give her an injection in her thigh, it is not necessary to expose her leg and her entire thigh for a very small area, but he resorts to restricting the circle of exposure, because this is one of the meanings of what? Necessity is estimated according to its extent, and so on. Also, for example, as we mentioned earlier, that she has this disc pain, well, it is not necessary for him to come and expose... he does not expose, from above what? The clothes, but if the expected benefit from this treatment is not achieved except by exposure, then the exposure is also within the limits of the area that this practitioner sees that he must place his finger in this place, and this is at the utmost precision, I mean these rulings, and it is very, very rare to find a male doctor, whether he is a doctor of medicine.
Another student: May Allah kill him.
The student : He has no knowledge, or rather, he has not studied this matter through academic study.
Another student: May Allah kill him.
Another student: Except that it is due to the ignorance of the women.
The Shaykh : Even if he had studied, this is a practice that is not permissible. Do you know this person?
Another student: I do not know him.
The Shaykh : Or have you heard of him? Ah.
The student : Where is he, in Suwailih, in what place? You do not know his name? You do not know his name?
Another student: Abu Talal al-Malaki.
Another student: Al-Malaki.
Another student: Ah, Abu Talal? He does not do massages, no, he has experience with the disc, and I know his method, because my father (may Allah have mercy on him), before his passing, naturally he had an old disc problem, so they described the man to me, so I went to him at his house, which is on a hill in Suwailih, from one side.
Another student: No, and you are truthful... I went and brought the man, he does not do massages or anything, he does not expose the patient unless necessity demands it, he is a man with mindfulness of Allah, he does not massage or anything, he does not expose the women, I even saw him with my father, he did not expose my father, my father was just wrapped in his underwear, he would press on the areas where there might be pain, and when he reaches a certain point he says "here is it," and he makes a movement like this with his finger, like a press, not a massage, and then he holds the legs and makes a movement like this, I do not know how he twists the leg, after he inserts the leg he brings it to the thigh and makes a movement like this, a quick movement, this is all he does, Abu, the whole matter takes him at most ten minutes.
Another student: Did he study medicine?
The Shaykh : Apparently this is a profession that does not seem to be specialized to this man, there is another one in Zarqa, Abu Ahmad told me about him.Abu Layla : Because his mother also complains of this.
The student : This is our Shaykh, and you are truthful, in Zarqa.
The Shaykh : In Zarqa. But he comes to Zarqa.
The student : This one is Chechen.
Another student : ...
Another student: No, Abu Munir, this is the one he means, that man is a Chechen who learned it.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is it.
The student : He learned it from an Iraqi, this Iraqi, this Iraqi has a strange and odd job, he has a short stick like this, he puts it on the place of pain, and then his wife, he tells her "pull the leg" when he gives her permission after the pressure, the whole thing takes two minutes, no more and no less, he is very fast, so this man learned from him.
Another student: Is there benefit from the treatment?
Another student: By Allah, they say that some of them benefited from him.
The questioner : Is it permissible to take women to him?
The Shaykh : Is it permissible to take women to doctors in the last times, or not? For necessity.
The student : ... the doctor, I mean, or rather, he is able to treat.
The student : No, there is no problem, but I am like what the brother Jamal said, the picture conveyed to the brother Jamal is not correct.
The Shaykh : There is exaggeration in it.
The student : No, he is a good man.
The Shaykh : Treating women by men is permissible within the limits of necessity, and necessity is estimated according to its extent. From the details of estimating necessity according to its extent is that there is no woman to treat this patient, so in this case she is forced to go to a man. Then this man, when he treats her, also treats her within the limits of necessity. For example, for example, and this is a very realistic matter, he wants to give her an injection in her thigh, it is not necessary to expose her leg and her entire thigh for a very small area, but he resorts to restricting the circle of exposure, because this is one of the meanings of what? Necessity is estimated according to its extent, and so on. Also, for example, as we mentioned earlier, that she has this disc pain, well, it is not necessary for him to come and expose... he does not expose, from above what? The clothes, but if the expected benefit from this treatment is not achieved except by exposure, then the exposure is also within the limits of the area that this practitioner sees that he must place his finger in this place, and this is at the utmost precision, I mean these rulings, and it is very, very rare to find a male doctor, whether he is a doctor of medicine.
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