The Ruling on Naming (‘Abd al-‘Uthman)
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[The Ruling on Naming (‘Abd al-‘Uthman)]
Your Eminence,A man is called: ‘Abd al-‘Uthman, the ‘Abd al-‘Uthmans, what is your opinion of this name?The Shaykh: I mean ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn ‘Uthman.
The questioner: Yes.
There is nothing wrong with it. Do you think that (‘Abd) is attached and (‘Uthman) is the thing it is attached to?Meaning: That he worships ‘Uthman?The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: No,His intention is: ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn ‘Uthman, but this language came to us and we do not know where it came from! We used to know only ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn, Muhammad ibn, ‘Ali ibn, but this non-Arabic language came to us,and she: deleting (ibn),And people came to say, for example: ‘Ali ibn ‘Abd al-‘Uthman: ‘Ali ‘Abd al-‘Uthman,Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-‘Uthman: Muhammad ‘Abd al-‘Uthman, and we ask Allah not to bring upon us the addition of the wife to her husband,As they say regarding a man’s wife: so-and-so of so-and-so, and they leave out the father, so her father becomes her husband.
The questioner: That is the current situation.
The Shaykh: That is the situation among non-Saudis, praise be to Allah;But I say: we ask Allah to protect us, I fear that when the disease of deleting (ibn) came to us, the other disease will come after it.
The questioner: How far does it go with (ibn)?The Shaykh: Always, it continues until it reaches the tribe,For example: Muhammad ibn ‘Ali ibn Khalid ibn ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn ‘Abbas, and so on until it reaches the tribe, and the name of the tribe is given, yes.
Your Eminence,A man is called: ‘Abd al-‘Uthman, the ‘Abd al-‘Uthmans, what is your opinion of this name?The Shaykh: I mean ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn ‘Uthman.
The questioner: Yes.
There is nothing wrong with it. Do you think that (‘Abd) is attached and (‘Uthman) is the thing it is attached to?Meaning: That he worships ‘Uthman?The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: No,His intention is: ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn ‘Uthman, but this language came to us and we do not know where it came from! We used to know only ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn, Muhammad ibn, ‘Ali ibn, but this non-Arabic language came to us,and she: deleting (ibn),And people came to say, for example: ‘Ali ibn ‘Abd al-‘Uthman: ‘Ali ‘Abd al-‘Uthman,Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-‘Uthman: Muhammad ‘Abd al-‘Uthman, and we ask Allah not to bring upon us the addition of the wife to her husband,As they say regarding a man’s wife: so-and-so of so-and-so, and they leave out the father, so her father becomes her husband.
The questioner: That is the current situation.
The Shaykh: That is the situation among non-Saudis, praise be to Allah;But I say: we ask Allah to protect us, I fear that when the disease of deleting (ibn) came to us, the other disease will come after it.
The questioner: How far does it go with (ibn)?The Shaykh: Always, it continues until it reaches the tribe,For example: Muhammad ibn ‘Ali ibn Khalid ibn ‘Abd al-‘Uthman ibn ‘Abbas, and so on until it reaches the tribe, and the name of the tribe is given, yes.