Discussion on the ruling for one who feels something coming out of his rear while in prayer, but hears no sound and smells no odor?
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The student : Our brother mentioned just now that if he does not hear a sound and does not smell an odor.
The Shaykh : What if Satan pulls a hair from underneath and makes him think something came out? How can he be certain? Give us an example so we can see. Inform us with knowledge if you are truthful.
The student : If he is certain.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, do not repeat. Tell me how? How can he be certain?
The student : By a strong sensation.
The Shaykh : What strong sensation? Satan is playing with his rear. What strong sensation?
The student : In my opinion... certainty, if it is so.
The Shaykh : How does he know? How does he distinguish between this strong sensation and this being Satan playing with his rear?
The student : He remains with a degree of doubt.
The Shaykh : And the Messenger of Allah, what is the benefit then if he said:Sunan Abi Dawud 177Sahih (Al-Albani) If the matter is based on an internal sensation and not on something external, may Allah forgive you, Sami. They turn away from the explicit text to a sensation. What is this sensation? Does not the sensation admit of illusion? Say, yes.
The student : Yes.
The Shaykh : How does he distinguish? How does he distinguish between what you call a strong sensation in this matter where the text has come down, and illusion? How?
The student : Such that he does not find even one in a hundred.
The Shaykh : Do not repeat your words, may Allah guide you. Tell me how? How does he distinguish between the strong sensation and illusion? That is, so that this is not an illusion, what is the proof he has? So that it is not from Satan’s play, what is the proof he has?
The student : This is it only.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you peace.
The questioner: Praise be to Allah for your safety.
The Shaykh : I do not know, and neither do you?
The questioner: No, you are first.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner: Then we are.
The Shaykh : No, you are first.
The questioner: When did you arrive?
The Shaykh : We wanted to knock on the door and hear the answer.
The questioner: When did you arrive?
The Shaykh : We arrived.
The student : ... and there is no sound and no odor.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : Is there not an odor? There is no sound and no odor.
The Shaykh : No, are you speaking in terms of the Shari'ah or in terms of reality?
The student : In reality.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, answer the question.
The student : In reality.
The Shaykh : Do not waste my time.
The student : In reality.
The Shaykh : Does this have any value in the Shari'ah?
The Shaykh : What if Satan pulls a hair from underneath and makes him think something came out? How can he be certain? Give us an example so we can see. Inform us with knowledge if you are truthful.
The student : If he is certain.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, do not repeat. Tell me how? How can he be certain?
The student : By a strong sensation.
The Shaykh : What strong sensation? Satan is playing with his rear. What strong sensation?
The student : In my opinion... certainty, if it is so.
The Shaykh : How does he know? How does he distinguish between this strong sensation and this being Satan playing with his rear?
The student : He remains with a degree of doubt.
The Shaykh : And the Messenger of Allah, what is the benefit then if he said:
he should not cease praying unless he hears a sound or perceives a smell.
فلا ينصرف حتَّى يسمعَ صوتًا أو يجد ريحًاThe student : Yes.
The Shaykh : How does he distinguish? How does he distinguish between what you call a strong sensation in this matter where the text has come down, and illusion? How?
The student : Such that he does not find even one in a hundred.
The Shaykh : Do not repeat your words, may Allah guide you. Tell me how? How does he distinguish between the strong sensation and illusion? That is, so that this is not an illusion, what is the proof he has? So that it is not from Satan’s play, what is the proof he has?
The student : This is it only.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you peace.
The questioner: Praise be to Allah for your safety.
The Shaykh : I do not know, and neither do you?
The questioner: No, you are first.
The Shaykh : Why?
The questioner: Then we are.
The Shaykh : No, you are first.
The questioner: When did you arrive?
The Shaykh : We wanted to knock on the door and hear the answer.
The questioner: When did you arrive?
The Shaykh : We arrived.
The student : ... and there is no sound and no odor.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : Is there not an odor? There is no sound and no odor.
The Shaykh : No, are you speaking in terms of the Shari'ah or in terms of reality?
The student : In reality.
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, answer the question.
The student : In reality.
The Shaykh : Do not waste my time.
The student : In reality.
The Shaykh : Does this have any value in the Shari'ah?
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