What is the ruling on a man who gives another man a sum of money on the condition that he gives him a specific amount monthly in return for it?

The questioner : A man gives another man a sum of money on the condition that he gives him a specific amount monthly in return for it.

The Shaykh : It is open riba (usury or interest).

The questioner : Even if it is the same amount.

The Shaykh : The same amount.

The questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : How do you mean the same amount?

The questioner : I mean he pays it back in installments if he gave him a thousand.
The student: No, no, no
Another student: Yes.
Another student: I mean he gives him a thousand dinars and says he will utilize the thousand dinars and give him, for example, forty dinars monthly.

The Shaykh : It is riba, riba.

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.