A dialogue on the greatness of Islam and the impossibility of its erasure by its enemies, no matter how hard they try.

The student : Muhammad Arkoun, whom we might classify as a modernist following the pattern of the Orientalists, is an Algerian resident in France who was awarded a doctoral thesis. He says that we need one hundred institutions and thirty years before we can be able to move Muslims away from their adherence to the texts.

The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The student : This is in his book; he has a book in which he placed this phrase.
Another student: Who is he?
The student : Muhammad Arkoun. We repeat the phrase because it is very important. He says, in order to confront the people of the Sunnah and the community, and the truth is that, I mean, before I mention the phrase, I say that the methodology of the people of the Sunnah and the community, which is the methodology of the righteous predecessors, is a thorn in the throats of all these people, because it is a thorn stuck in their throats; they cannot do anything without removing it from the path. Therefore, they must work to remove the people of the Sunnah, both in thought and in person.

The Shaykh : And they will not be able to, if Allah wills.
The student : If Allah wills, they will not be able to, and Allah refuses but to complete His light. So Muhammad Arkoun thinks that we need one hundred institutions, meaning one hundred institutions like the International Institute of Islamic Thought and larger than it, and that these efforts continue for thirty years until they can move some Muslims away from adhering to the literalness of the texts, or as they say. We say we ask for evidence so that we may proceed upon it in this matter.

The Shaykh : This testimony from a cunning enemy is that the matter is not easy.
The student : But this, our Shaykh, is a jurist. This is the truth; he understands the meaning of the saying of the Exalted: ; because the completion of the preservation of the remembrance is that there be a community that protects it, and He knows that this community will never die. Therefore, no matter how much effort he exerts to try to move Muslims away from any idea, even if it is from the self-evident etiquettes and morals in the lives of Muslims, they cannot do this.
Another student: Therefore, my brothers, I mean, may Allah reward him with all good, Shaykh Nasser.

The Shaykh : May Allah preserve you.
The student : He has been diligent in working to authenticate the Sunnah, and this is one of the works that the community needs to the highest degree, because without authentication, our religion would be lost. We have nothing except this authentication. They are trying to remove it; they want to remove the Prophetic Sunnah, especially these three, my brother: Jodat Said, Muhammad Iqbal, and Muhammad Shahrur. They believe that the Prophetic Sunnah was in a pre-Islamic era, in a pastoral era. I will give you an example, in summary: they say that the man has a share like that of the two women. They say that this verse, we leave it for recitation, but how we apply it in the reality of life depends on the environmental conditions. When it was a tribal society, they feared that money would go out of this tribe to the other tribe, so they did not give the woman more than half the man's share. But now, we are a rational society.

The Shaykh : What Allah willed.
The student : A rational society, and in this rational society, the woman does not need more than this, so they call for equality.

The Shaykh: Allahu Akbar.
The student : As for Jodat Said, he dropped the subject in another way. He says, the man has a share like that of the two women, or the woman has a share like that of the two men; there is no difference, no problem, no economic problem.

The Shaykh : I seek refuge in Allah.
The student : He looks at that through the buying of classes and through the Marxist sequence, that now there is a national income; it is no longer... it is not the national income, but I mention it that it is the national income. He understands that the national income has become such that if you give the woman goods or give her half the share, there is no difference for him, because what went from here, he said it in these exact words, what went from here came to here, meaning he does not distinguish. So he wants to say that the text is fixed and that he cannot deny the text, and if he denies the text, everyone would declare him a disbeliever. He openly says the text is fixed and the understanding changes, and this is a rule that contradicts Islam. Therefore, they abrogate the scholarly consensus and they abrogate the Sunnah in order to distort the Book, because with the existence of the Prophetic Sunnah, they cannot distort the meanings of the Qur'an, because the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) explained them, and the consensus of the community on a specific matter helps in that the Companions themselves understood matters from the Messenger and agreed upon them. Therefore, from here, my brothers, they deactivate the Book and the Sunnah by materialistic methods.
Another student: In the name of Allah.
The student : Please proceed.
Another student: Our Shaykh, and this confirms the importance, I mean, the great concern and the weight that is upon our da'wah.

The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah. We ask Allah to help us with...