The Shaykh’s return to discussing the doubts regarding the book "Al-Umdah fi I'dad al-Uddah"
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The Shaykh : All right; where did we leave off in our discussion?
We left off at the point that there is no text stating that the Victorious Group must be in a specific country. So if we were to claim, for example, that the Victorious Group is here in Oman, that claim would be false. What is the evidence for that? But without a doubt, the Victorious Group is sometimes—and this is the norm—scattered across the lands of Islam. It may sometimes be in a specific region, or in a town, depending on the circumstances and the fitnah (trial, discord or temptation), and so on. So dragging these hadiths to a specific group and claiming that they are the ones intended by them is, in reality, a matter of interpreting the hadiths in a way other than their intended meaning, and dragging the texts to support specific ideas for which there is no evidence.
And what other questions do you have so that we can return to answering the previous questions?
I may have an idea about the importance of these questions regarding the topic of the Islamic group. Because you actually started with an issue I consider secondary. Yet, as a secondary issue, it indicates their weakness in understanding the texts on one hand, and their weakness in distinguishing the authentic from the weak among the texts on the other hand. Despite this, they present themselves and consider themselves to be the Victorious Group.
We know the Victorious Group by its effects, by its knowledge, and by its da'wah (calling others to Islam). As for the word jihad now, where is this jihad? Where is this group that actually fights, not just with pens, but also with swords? Claiming the existence of this group is stubbornness and denial of reality. Furthermore, it means that those who make this claim are claiming what is not theirs.
Yes, and upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah. Welcome, please go ahead.
Fath? Yes?
The questioner : Fath, Fath.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead. Do you have any other questions?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : For example?
We left off at the point that there is no text stating that the Victorious Group must be in a specific country. So if we were to claim, for example, that the Victorious Group is here in Oman, that claim would be false. What is the evidence for that? But without a doubt, the Victorious Group is sometimes—and this is the norm—scattered across the lands of Islam. It may sometimes be in a specific region, or in a town, depending on the circumstances and the fitnah (trial, discord or temptation), and so on. So dragging these hadiths to a specific group and claiming that they are the ones intended by them is, in reality, a matter of interpreting the hadiths in a way other than their intended meaning, and dragging the texts to support specific ideas for which there is no evidence.
And what other questions do you have so that we can return to answering the previous questions?
I may have an idea about the importance of these questions regarding the topic of the Islamic group. Because you actually started with an issue I consider secondary. Yet, as a secondary issue, it indicates their weakness in understanding the texts on one hand, and their weakness in distinguishing the authentic from the weak among the texts on the other hand. Despite this, they present themselves and consider themselves to be the Victorious Group.
We know the Victorious Group by its effects, by its knowledge, and by its da'wah (calling others to Islam). As for the word jihad now, where is this jihad? Where is this group that actually fights, not just with pens, but also with swords? Claiming the existence of this group is stubbornness and denial of reality. Furthermore, it means that those who make this claim are claiming what is not theirs.
Yes, and upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah. Welcome, please go ahead.
Fath? Yes?
The questioner : Fath, Fath.
The Shaykh : Please go ahead. Do you have any other questions?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : For example?
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