Explanation of the treatment for this man who claims prophethood and asserts that he was a disbeliever before revelation was sent to him, citing the saying of Allah the Exalted, "And He found you lost, so He guided you"
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The questioner : ... Spread out the sentences ... What are they ... .
Another questioner: He sees his own state as something very great. He claims at one time to be the emperor of the world or the king of the world, and at another time he shrinks back and hides from people ... This is the one who brings this claim, as you claim ... .
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner: Sometimes it is like this and sometimes like that, and I have judged you by your speech ... from the standpoint of knowledge and awareness, that if the second state does not come, it will come to you later. Therefore, if you want advice from the standpoint of religion, do you see? Because you are from the general Muslims, meaning you are not from ... from their general class, do you see? From the standpoint of religious advice, you ... .
The Shaykh : The treatment: I see, I will mediate in the matter. The treatment is of two types: a scientific, religious, and legal treatment, and a medical, physical one ... If he does not accept the second treatment, he must at least accept the first, which is the scientific one. Our Lord said[An-Nahl 16:43] You, excuse me, you ... How many years have you been making this claim?
The questioner : From four and seventy ... Saudi Arabia ... .
The Shaykh : Four and seventy, okay. And before that, what were you?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Do you see? And it became clear to you that you were not a Muslim ... Did it become clear to you that you were not a Muslim?
The questioner : A disbeliever ... .
The Shaykh : I was a disbeliever! Have you known a prophet or a messenger who was a disbeliever?
The questioner : Yes ...[Ad-Duhaa 93:7] ... He was lost ... .
The Shaykh : Excuse me ... Look, now ... .
The questioner : Misguidance is the opposite of guidance...
The Shaykh : Pay attention, Professor. I did not ask you whether he was misguided or not.
The questioner : ... I answered you...
The Shaykh : I did not ask you that. I asked you: Do you clarify for yourself that when this so-called revelation was revealed to you, you were a disbeliever? I said, yes. I said, Do you know that a Messenger was a disbeliever? I said, yes! Then the verse is obligatory:[Ad-Duhaa 93:7] Misguidance is one thing, and disbelief is another! Misguidance is one thing, and disbelief is another. It is possible for a person to pray but not pray well, to be lost on the path, so he prays but does not pray well, and does not pray well. This is not a disbeliever; this is a misguided person... Therefore, I say... Listen... Give me your attention, because... this statement is logical and scientific at the same time. A man prays, but he prays badly. Well, this is not a disbeliever, but he is misguided, so he is in need of guidance and direction. So you are now, which indicates to us that you are not a scholar... nor of what was revealed to you... Why? Because you do not use proper conduct with your Prophet, whom you claim to follow!...
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Listen... The evidence comes to you... not just in your words, but in your actions and in your speech. I asked you: Do you know a Messenger who was a disbeliever before the message? You said, yes. He, the Exalted, said:[Ad-Duhaa 93:7] Did we make you understand that the Messenger was a disbeliever before the revelation was sent down to him? While you can say he was misguided by the text of the Noble Qur'an, then you interpret: Perhaps this misguidance is shirk (associating partners with Allah) or misguidance. How does he guide these misguided polytheists who are lost in the wilderness of shirk? There is no difference! So now, your poor knowledge has led you to poor conduct with your Prophet, where you took the verse [Ad-Duhaa 93:7] to mean a disbeliever, and this means that you believe the Prophet was a disbeliever before his mission. The scholars of the Muslims have half of their speech without an answer, and all the scholars of the Muslims agree that it is impossible... He mentioned earlier that it is much broader than what was claimed. It is impossible for a Prophet to live as a disbeliever, associating partners with Allah, and then the revelation is sent down to him: [Al-Hajj 22:75] Does He choose from the disbelievers, the wicked ones? I seek refuge in Allah. [Al-An'am 6:124] How do you imagine that the Prophet was a disbeliever?
The questioner : ... Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He...
The Shaykh : This means that you interpret the Qur'an according to desire, and you interpret the Qur'an according to desire...
The questioner : Any person on the face of the earth is either a disbeliever or a believer.
The Shaykh : Falsehood of speech...
The questioner : I heard you...
The Shaykh : Falsehood...
The questioner : By Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He, He says:[Yunus 10:100] And before Allah gives permission, this soul is a disbeliever...
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you... We say without Allah's permission!
The questioner : It does not mean that he is a disbeliever who loves disbelief and follows disbelief, but he is a disbeliever and... faith...
The Shaykh : I seek refuge in Allah. The Prophet was a disbeliever before the mission...!
Another questioner: And He says: [Yusuf 12:3] ... This is evidence because before faith, before the message, before guidance... Any person...
The Shaykh : ... He said: From among the disbelievers or from among the heedless...
Another questioner: The absence of faith is nothing but misguidance after the truth.
The Shaykh : Take it easy...
Another questioner: What is the absence of faith...
The Shaykh : Enough of the shouting we have heard...
Another questioner: We are hesitant to say the word "disbelief" about the Master of Mankind...
The Shaykh : ... Your brother...
Another questioner: ... Confirm it...
The Shaykh : You... Are you not embarrassed to say it from where?
Another questioner: Yes, you are not embarrassed...
The Shaykh : Why are you embarrassed!
Another questioner: I say...
The Shaykh : Come on, everyone...
Another questioner: Advise the brother, it is better, because he may be tempted... He may lean toward some statement... You can guide him...
The Shaykh : ... My brother, you know your state. Where has your Lord placed you?[An-Nahl 16:43] !
The questioner : ... It is not me ... .
The Shaykh : Be patient ... This
Another questioner: He sees his own state as something very great. He claims at one time to be the emperor of the world or the king of the world, and at another time he shrinks back and hides from people ... This is the one who brings this claim, as you claim ... .
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner: Sometimes it is like this and sometimes like that, and I have judged you by your speech ... from the standpoint of knowledge and awareness, that if the second state does not come, it will come to you later. Therefore, if you want advice from the standpoint of religion, do you see? Because you are from the general Muslims, meaning you are not from ... from their general class, do you see? From the standpoint of religious advice, you ... .
The Shaykh : The treatment: I see, I will mediate in the matter. The treatment is of two types: a scientific, religious, and legal treatment, and a medical, physical one ... If he does not accept the second treatment, he must at least accept the first, which is the scientific one. Our Lord said
So ask the people of the message if you do not know.
فاسألوا أهل الذكر إن كنتم لا تعلمونThe questioner : From four and seventy ... Saudi Arabia ... .
The Shaykh : Four and seventy, okay. And before that, what were you?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Do you see? And it became clear to you that you were not a Muslim ... Did it become clear to you that you were not a Muslim?
The questioner : A disbeliever ... .
The Shaykh : I was a disbeliever! Have you known a prophet or a messenger who was a disbeliever?
The questioner : Yes ...
And He found you lost and guided [you],
و وجدك ضالا فهدىThe Shaykh : Excuse me ... Look, now ... .
The questioner : Misguidance is the opposite of guidance...
The Shaykh : Pay attention, Professor. I did not ask you whether he was misguided or not.
The questioner : ... I answered you...
The Shaykh : I did not ask you that. I asked you: Do you clarify for yourself that when this so-called revelation was revealed to you, you were a disbeliever? I said, yes. I said, Do you know that a Messenger was a disbeliever? I said, yes! Then the verse is obligatory:
And He found you lost and guided [you],
ووجدك ضالا فهدىThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Listen... The evidence comes to you... not just in your words, but in your actions and in your speech. I asked you: Do you know a Messenger who was a disbeliever before the message? You said, yes. He, the Exalted, said:
And He found you lost and guided [you],
ووجدك ضالا فهدىAnd He found you lost and guided [you],
ووجدك ضالا فهدىAllah chooses from the angels messengers and from the people
الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا و من الناسAllah is most knowing of where He places His message
الله أعلم حيث يجعل رسالتهThe questioner : ... Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He...
The Shaykh : This means that you interpret the Qur'an according to desire, and you interpret the Qur'an according to desire...
The questioner : Any person on the face of the earth is either a disbeliever or a believer.
The Shaykh : Falsehood of speech...
The questioner : I heard you...
The Shaykh : Falsehood...
The questioner : By Allah, Glorified and Exalted is He, He says:
And it is not for a soul to believe except by permission of Allah
وما كان لنفس أن تؤمن إلا بإذن الله ...The Shaykh : May Allah guide you... We say without Allah's permission!
The questioner : It does not mean that he is a disbeliever who loves disbelief and follows disbelief, but he is a disbeliever and... faith...
The Shaykh : I seek refuge in Allah. The Prophet was a disbeliever before the mission...!
Another questioner:
And you did not know what faith is, nor the Book ...
وما كنت تدري ما الإيمان ولا الكتاب ...although you were, before it, among the unaware.
وإن كنت من قبله لمن الغافلينThe Shaykh : ... He said: From among the disbelievers or from among the heedless...
Another questioner: The absence of faith is nothing but misguidance after the truth.
The Shaykh : Take it easy...
Another questioner: What is the absence of faith...
The Shaykh : Enough of the shouting we have heard...
Another questioner: We are hesitant to say the word "disbelief" about the Master of Mankind...
The Shaykh : ... Your brother...
Another questioner: ... Confirm it...
The Shaykh : You... Are you not embarrassed to say it from where?
Another questioner: Yes, you are not embarrassed...
The Shaykh : Why are you embarrassed!
Another questioner: I say...
The Shaykh : Come on, everyone...
Another questioner: Advise the brother, it is better, because he may be tempted... He may lean toward some statement... You can guide him...
The Shaykh : ... My brother, you know your state. Where has your Lord placed you?
So ask the people of the message if you do not know.
فاسألوا أهل الذكر إن كنتم لا تعلمونThe questioner : ... It is not me ... .
The Shaykh : Be patient ... This