Does deliberately lying about the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) necessitate eternal abode in the Fire?
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Abu Ishaq: Well, on the occasion of mentioning Nuha ibn Abi Maryam, does deliberately lying about the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) necessitate eternal abode in the Fire?
The Shaykh : Like hating Ali.
Abu Ishaq: Like hating Ali, but the issue differs in that this is deliberate lying, like Abd al-Karim ibn Abi al-‘Ujaj, in order to forbid what is lawful and permit what is forbidden, as he himself stated explicitly. So, if he intended this, is he considered to have exited the religion?
The Shaykh : I don’t... and the example of Ahmad, if he intended, what then?
Abu Ishaq: If he intended to enter the Shari'ah deliberately in order to falsify it or the like, this is disbelief.
The Shaykh : A disbeliever.
Abu Ishaq: Disbelief. Well, and the majority of the fabricators who used to fabricate hadith.
The Shaykh : No, they are not the same.
Abu Ishaq: They are not the same.
The Shaykh : I mean, the one who fabricates, for example, the hadith laughsThe Shaykh : And so does Abu Ishaq
The Shaykh : This one does not intend to sow discord in the Shari'ah or change it; this is for promoting merchandise, like the one who also narrated from the hadith This is a hadith you do not know; you should narrate it from me
The Shaykh : laughsThe Shaykh : and the students
The Shaykh : This is narrated by some of them from an imam of a village. A farmer from the village came to him, "And upon you be peace." He said, he has a large pile of cucumbers with him and he fears they will spoil. He said to him, "What is the matter with you? Bring them tomorrow, or today if today is Friday." He placed them in front of the mosque, and the rest is on me. So the man did so and ascended the pulpit, "O servants of Allah, fear Allah," and so on, continuing until he said, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: The people do not believe; they exit the mosque where the cucumbers are piled at the door of the mosque until they buy the cucumbers in order to enter Paradise. Ha! So in moments they left the mosque and cleaned the place of the cucumbers becauseThe Shaykh : he narrated on the pulpit for him So this is undoubtedly lying and fabrication deserving of the Fire Sahih al-Bukhari 107. But this differs from the one who intended to corrupt the religion and the Shari'ah; this is one who follows his desires. And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
Al-Halabi : I recall that al-Juwayni was mentioned by the scholars among those who uniquely ruled that the one who lies about the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) is a disbeliever.
Abu Ishaq: Abu Muhammad?
Al-Halabi : Abu Muhammad al-Juwayni, meaning they mention that he said about him that he is a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is mentioned, correct, in terminology, but in my opinion, it is necessary to distinguish; it is necessary to study the motive for the lying, yes.
The Shaykh : Like hating Ali.
Abu Ishaq: Like hating Ali, but the issue differs in that this is deliberate lying, like Abd al-Karim ibn Abi al-‘Ujaj, in order to forbid what is lawful and permit what is forbidden, as he himself stated explicitly. So, if he intended this, is he considered to have exited the religion?
The Shaykh : I don’t... and the example of Ahmad, if he intended, what then?
Abu Ishaq: If he intended to enter the Shari'ah deliberately in order to falsify it or the like, this is disbelief.
The Shaykh : A disbeliever.
Abu Ishaq: Disbelief. Well, and the majority of the fabricators who used to fabricate hadith.
The Shaykh : No, they are not the same.
Abu Ishaq: They are not the same.
The Shaykh : I mean, the one who fabricates, for example, the hadith
I complained to Jibril of my weakness from sexual intercourse, so he commanded me to eat porridge
شكوت إلى جبريل ضعفي من الوقاع فأمرني بأكل الهريسهThe Shaykh : This one does not intend to sow discord in the Shari'ah or change it; this is for promoting merchandise, like the one who also narrated from the hadith
Whoever eats cucumbers enters Paradise
من أكل اليخنة دخل الجنةThe Shaykh : laughsThe Shaykh : and the students
The Shaykh : This is narrated by some of them from an imam of a village. A farmer from the village came to him, "And upon you be peace." He said, he has a large pile of cucumbers with him and he fears they will spoil. He said to him, "What is the matter with you? Bring them tomorrow, or today if today is Friday." He placed them in front of the mosque, and the rest is on me. So the man did so and ascended the pulpit, "O servants of Allah, fear Allah," and so on, continuing until he said, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Whoever eats cucumbers enters Paradise
من أكل اليخنة دخل الجنةWhoever eats cucumbers enters Paradise
من أكل اليخنة دخل الجنةthen (surely) let him occupy, his seat in Hellfire.
فليتبوأ مقعده من النارAl-Halabi : I recall that al-Juwayni was mentioned by the scholars among those who uniquely ruled that the one who lies about the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) is a disbeliever.
Abu Ishaq: Abu Muhammad?
Al-Halabi : Abu Muhammad al-Juwayni, meaning they mention that he said about him that he is a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is mentioned, correct, in terminology, but in my opinion, it is necessary to distinguish; it is necessary to study the motive for the lying, yes.
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