Is it authentic that what is mentioned in the history of Ibn Asakir is that the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said to him
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The questioner: Shaykh, there is a hadith in the history of Ibn Asakir. It says the Hafiz reported from Muslim ibn Subayh that he said: The Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said to the Messenger of Allah: The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was pleased until the joy was visible on his face. Then Uthman ibn Affan stood up and said: “O Messenger of Allah, they are our fathers, our grandfathers, and our brothers.” Uthman kept repeating this until the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) turned away from his initial opinion, and his rejection of it was visible on his face. He said: And the polytheists took us when we were in the evening. No one from the Companions of the Messenger of Allah except that he offered the return, meaning going back, except Bilal, for he was saying: “One, one, the questioner.” Shaykh, the authenticity of this hadith first
The Shaykh: This, without referring to the original source, is mursal because Muslim ibn Subayh is not a Companion
The questioner: Yes, the question relates to its establishment, meaning its attribution to the Prophet. I mean, I want to ask a question in the case that the hadith is marfu' to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and is authentic
The Shaykh: It is not marfu'
The questioner: You were saying, Shaykh, it is mursal because Muslim ibn Subayh is not a Companion
The Shaykh: Yes, meaning it is not marfu'
The questioner: So, is the hadith authentic?
The Shaykh: Do not expose us.
Al-Halabi: His intention is musnad
The questioner: Yes, it is so
The Shaykh: What do you mean?
Al-Halabi: His intention is musnad. It is marfu' to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), but it is mursal and not musnad
The Shaykh: Okay, let him express his opinion after the interpretation of this
The questioner: Okay, we now want, in its current state that it is mursal from the narration of Muslim ibn Subayh, is this hadith authentic in its chain?
The Shaykh: Do you see how he is messing it up? Your patching up for him, it did not benefit him, my brother. You know that the mursal is weak. Every mursal hadith is weak
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh: Do you not know this thing?
The questioner: Yes, of course I know it well, Shaykh
The Shaykh: Okay, how do you ask this question?
The questioner: It escaped me
The Shaykh : That is it.
Al-Halabi: Shaykh, if Muslim ibn Subayh repeats, from what?
The Shaykh: There is no “from.”
We have become numerous, so if you ordered every ten of us to go to one of the prominent men of Quraysh at night, take him, and kill him, the lands would become ours for the morning
إنّا قد كثرنا فلو أمرت كل عشرة منا أن يأتوا رجلا من صناديد قريش ليلا فيأخذوه و يقتلوه وتصبح البلاد لناThe Shaykh: This, without referring to the original source, is mursal because Muslim ibn Subayh is not a Companion
The questioner: Yes, the question relates to its establishment, meaning its attribution to the Prophet. I mean, I want to ask a question in the case that the hadith is marfu' to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and is authentic
The Shaykh: It is not marfu'
The questioner: You were saying, Shaykh, it is mursal because Muslim ibn Subayh is not a Companion
The Shaykh: Yes, meaning it is not marfu'
The questioner: So, is the hadith authentic?
The Shaykh: Do not expose us.
Al-Halabi: His intention is musnad
The questioner: Yes, it is so
The Shaykh: What do you mean?
Al-Halabi: His intention is musnad. It is marfu' to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), but it is mursal and not musnad
The Shaykh: Okay, let him express his opinion after the interpretation of this
The questioner: Okay, we now want, in its current state that it is mursal from the narration of Muslim ibn Subayh, is this hadith authentic in its chain?
The Shaykh: Do you see how he is messing it up? Your patching up for him, it did not benefit him, my brother. You know that the mursal is weak. Every mursal hadith is weak
The questioner : Yes, exactly.
The Shaykh: Do you not know this thing?
The questioner: Yes, of course I know it well, Shaykh
The Shaykh: Okay, how do you ask this question?
The questioner: It escaped me
The Shaykh : That is it.
Al-Halabi: Shaykh, if Muslim ibn Subayh repeats, from what?
The Shaykh: There is no “from.”
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