Questions about death and the meaning of the saying of Allah the Exalted: “It is He who gave you life, then will cause you to die...” the verse?
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The Shaykh : It means there will be a settling for the people of Paradise and the people of the Fire, so... between Paradise and the Fire, it is said to the people of Paradise: eternal abode, so no death after the completion of the entire Reckoning.
The questioner : It means after the people of the Fire come out...
The Shaykh : They do not come out after they enter.
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The questioner : Do the Muslims inside the Fire come out, I mean?
The Shaykh : They come out, yes.
The questioner : What is the evidence for this?
The Shaykh : We do not know this, the chronological order...
The Shaykh : As for the sinful believers who entered Paradise, we do not know. But it is explicit that this ram is slaughtered after the people of Paradise enter Paradise and the people of the Fire enter the Fire, but this does not contradict that those who... are exempted from eternal abode in the Fire, yes.
The questioner : The verse...
Another questioner: [al-Baqarah:28].
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The Shaykh : The intention is not that the human being speaks, is this the verse... were you not saying that death is before life, like that?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : How do you disbelieve in Allah while you were dead, so He gave you life.
The Shaykh : Yes, while you were saying death is after life.
Another questioner: No, death is before life.
...
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : How do you disbelieve in Allah while you were dead, so He gave you life, then He will cause you to die, then to Him you will return.
Another questioner: It means He took all existing things from non-existence... the original state is that... dead, so Allah gave him life.
The Shaykh : Yes, but this.
The questioner : Because He is the original Knower.
The Shaykh : Yes, but this... is non-existence in what we are in.
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : The verse, the intended meaning in it is non-existence, but is it permissible to intend by the verse what we are in now? No, the intended meaning of the verse is non-existence, then...
The questioner : ... excuse me, in the first creation, after that, we have, I mean, death, then life, then death, then another life, I mean the creation of creation.
Another questioner: ... and there was nothing before it.
The Shaykh : Be patient a little, let us see and understand what he is saying, what are you... now, I mean hypothetically?
The questioner : The verse itself says[Al-Baqarah 2:28], yes, this death that struck us, I mean after the world of the souls, after we were in the world of the souls, so death struck us, I mean we did not exist in life, Allah the Mighty and Majestic did not create us.
The Shaykh : ... the world of the souls.
The questioner : Before the world of the souls, we were non-existent, we were not dead, so He created us in the world of the souls, then He caused us to die, then of course after that He created us in this worldly life, then He will cause us to die, then He will resurrect us for the Day of Reckoning.
The questioner : ... before your existence now, were you not in the world of the souls?
Another questioner: What is the world of the souls?
Another questioner: What is the world of the souls?
The questioner : [al-A'raf:172].
The questioner : The Messenger... your existence.
Another questioner: This is the death, where were you, you were not born, I mean you were not created in the worldly life.
Another questioner: ...
The questioner : ... your existence now, before you were born, where were you?
Another questioner: ... but it was in a specific form, continuing in a form...
The questioner : Where is it continuing?
Another questioner: Not in this form...
The Shaykh : Do not argue... you are saying nonsense.
The questioner : This is, I mean.
The Shaykh : It remains, it stays as it is until... the fetus.
The questioner : The fetus becomes...
Another questioner: The guy has no life here.
Another questioner: He does not have, I mean, the attribute of life except when...
Another questioner: ... exists but...
The Shaykh : Okay, did any of the scholars say this meaning that you are stating?
The questioner : No, it passes here, even in some things of this, in the explanation here there is.
The Shaykh : ... in an explanation there is.
The Shaykh : There is a difference between death and the dead, just as there is a difference between, for example, life and the living, what is the meaning of this philosophy?
The questioner : No, I meant the philosophy that people...
The Shaykh : You accepted that the second difference is like life and the living? Yes, what is intended by this?
The questioner : No, I intend that when death was slaughtered, the dead people were alive, this is the intended meaning, I mean...
The Shaykh : Now I want to ask about the world of the souls, yes, he says... then.
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: Did their souls remain between the world of the souls and the world of existence of any person among them?
The Shaykh : What do we want with these details? We are not able to do anything but believe, and even from the world of the souls, we were not given... to imagine it at all, but the report came with it, so we believed in it, but if we come to construct details on it that cannot be reached, neither by the path of reason nor by the path of transmission, it is not good to delve into such...
The questioner : Ibn Taymiyyah in his tafsir.
The questioner : This is what... is settled in my mind through my study of the tafsir...
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: If one of the scholars, like Ibn Taymiyyah and others, or... said it, then it is acceptable.
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The questioner : It means after the people of the Fire come out...
The Shaykh : They do not come out after they enter.
...
The questioner : Do the Muslims inside the Fire come out, I mean?
The Shaykh : They come out, yes.
The questioner : What is the evidence for this?
The Shaykh : We do not know this, the chronological order...
The Shaykh : As for the sinful believers who entered Paradise, we do not know. But it is explicit that this ram is slaughtered after the people of Paradise enter Paradise and the people of the Fire enter the Fire, but this does not contradict that those who... are exempted from eternal abode in the Fire, yes.
The questioner : The verse...
Another questioner:
How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were lifeless and He brought you to life; then He will cause you to die
كَيْفَ تَكْفُرُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَكُنتُمْ أَمْوَاتًا فَأَحْيَاكُمْ ثُمَّ يُمِيتُكُمْ...
The Shaykh : The intention is not that the human being speaks, is this the verse... were you not saying that death is before life, like that?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The questioner : How do you disbelieve in Allah while you were dead, so He gave you life.
The Shaykh : Yes, while you were saying death is after life.
Another questioner: No, death is before life.
...
The Shaykh : Yes, indeed.
The questioner : How do you disbelieve in Allah while you were dead, so He gave you life, then He will cause you to die, then to Him you will return.
Another questioner: It means He took all existing things from non-existence... the original state is that... dead, so Allah gave him life.
The Shaykh : Yes, but this.
The questioner : Because He is the original Knower.
The Shaykh : Yes, but this... is non-existence in what we are in.
The questioner : No.
The Shaykh : The verse, the intended meaning in it is non-existence, but is it permissible to intend by the verse what we are in now? No, the intended meaning of the verse is non-existence, then...
The questioner : ... excuse me, in the first creation, after that, we have, I mean, death, then life, then death, then another life, I mean the creation of creation.
Another questioner: ... and there was nothing before it.
The Shaykh : Be patient a little, let us see and understand what he is saying, what are you... now, I mean hypothetically?
The questioner : The verse itself says
when you were lifeless and He brought you to life
وَكُنتُمْ أَمْوَاتًا فَأَحْيَاكُمْThe Shaykh : ... the world of the souls.
The questioner : Before the world of the souls, we were non-existent, we were not dead, so He created us in the world of the souls, then He caused us to die, then of course after that He created us in this worldly life, then He will cause us to die, then He will resurrect us for the Day of Reckoning.
The questioner : ... before your existence now, were you not in the world of the souls?
Another questioner: What is the world of the souls?
Another questioner: What is the world of the souls?
The questioner :
And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants and made them testify of themselves, [saying to them], "Am I not your Lord?" They said, "Yes
وَإِذْ أَخَذَ رَبُّكَ مِنْ بَنِي آدَمَ مِنْ ظُهُورِهِمْ ذُرِّيَّتَهُمْ وَأَشْهَدَهُمْ عَلَى أَنفُسِهِمْ أَلَسْتُ بِرَبِّكُمْ قَالُوا بَلَىThe questioner : The Messenger... your existence.
Another questioner: This is the death, where were you, you were not born, I mean you were not created in the worldly life.
Another questioner: ...
The questioner : ... your existence now, before you were born, where were you?
Another questioner: ... but it was in a specific form, continuing in a form...
The questioner : Where is it continuing?
Another questioner: Not in this form...
The Shaykh : Do not argue... you are saying nonsense.
The questioner : This is, I mean.
The Shaykh : It remains, it stays as it is until... the fetus.
The questioner : The fetus becomes...
Another questioner: The guy has no life here.
Another questioner: He does not have, I mean, the attribute of life except when...
Another questioner: ... exists but...
The Shaykh : Okay, did any of the scholars say this meaning that you are stating?
The questioner : No, it passes here, even in some things of this, in the explanation here there is.
The Shaykh : ... in an explanation there is.
The Shaykh : There is a difference between death and the dead, just as there is a difference between, for example, life and the living, what is the meaning of this philosophy?
The questioner : No, I meant the philosophy that people...
The Shaykh : You accepted that the second difference is like life and the living? Yes, what is intended by this?
The questioner : No, I intend that when death was slaughtered, the dead people were alive, this is the intended meaning, I mean...
The Shaykh : Now I want to ask about the world of the souls, yes, he says... then.
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: Did their souls remain between the world of the souls and the world of existence of any person among them?
The Shaykh : What do we want with these details? We are not able to do anything but believe, and even from the world of the souls, we were not given... to imagine it at all, but the report came with it, so we believed in it, but if we come to construct details on it that cannot be reached, neither by the path of reason nor by the path of transmission, it is not good to delve into such...
The questioner : Ibn Taymiyyah in his tafsir.
The questioner : This is what... is settled in my mind through my study of the tafsir...
Al-'Aid 'Abassi: If one of the scholars, like Ibn Taymiyyah and others, or... said it, then it is acceptable.