A question from Shaykh al-Shanqiti from the Prophet’s City regarding a hadith: (
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The questioner : I say, this was sent with me by the honorableThe Shaykh : Muhammad Ahmad ibn Abd al-Qadir al-Shanqiti al-Qurashi al-Taymi. This Shaykh al-Shanqiti, who is advanced in age, passed by you in the Prophet’s Mosque. We study some things in hadith with him, including Ibn Rajab’s Sharh al-Ilal, and we read to him from Muslim and others. He sent with me... a letter saying: “It is obligatory that you deliver this to the Shaykh, and it contains some things I found difficult.”
The Shaykh : Excuse me, repeat his name for me.
The questioner : His name isThe Shaykh : Muhammad Ahmad, a compound name, ibn Abd al-Qadir al-Shanqiti al-Qurashi.
The Shaykh : Okay, how old is he?
The questioner : He told me recently that he is reaching eighty-three, or approaching it. He said to me, “I am five years older thanThe Shaykh : Ibn Baz.”
The Shaykh : Ah, he is eighty-three.
The questioner : Approximately
The Shaykh : Yes, that is strange. I do not remember him being in the City when I was there.
The questioner : He says he has been in the City for a long time, but he did not specify the number of years he stayed.
The Shaykh : Okay, what does he say?
The questioner : He says: “In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.”
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner : “I am one who singles you out for opinion and knowledge, and I convey to you my peace. Then he said: It is said thatThe Shaykh : Muhammad Ahmad asks you to pray for him for a good ending. And he says: The hadith in MuslimSahih Muslim 2582 It is known by consensus that animals are not subject to religious obligation, so how is this one avenged from that one? And as for your saying: ‘Until the justice of Allah is manifested’ or ‘So that Allah may manifest His justice,’ this is far-fetched. Does justice not manifest except by this? Is there no manifestation of justice other than this? And it is certainly known that a manifestation of justice is that no individual enters Paradise until he gives his brother a share from it. What is your statement? It is as if, O Shaykh, he is responding to a statement that appeared from you regarding this hadith.”
The Shaykh : We need to see the statement. What is it? Because...
The questioner : He says that you say that this hadith...
The Shaykh : No problem, where is my statement regarding this hadith mentioned?
The questioner : Well, perhaps he came across it, but he did not mention the source.
The Shaykh : No, he did not mention it to you.
The questioner : No, this paper was given to me by one of the brothers fromThe Shaykh : before the trip.
Another questioner : The hadith is reported in the Sahih, O our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : No problem, it must be reported... I mean, we need to wait now until we see exactly what we said. Where are you remembering it?
Another questioner : In the sixth, or certainly in the fourth.
The Shaykh : It does not respond to the statement thatThe Shaykh : The honorable
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : he is questioning with disapproval.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : That the justice of Allah is not manifested except by executing justice between the horned and the hornless. We did not say this, and no one says it. But this is one of the manifestations of that. So what is the problem with that? And the fact that animals are not subject to religious obligation, yes, they are not subject to it. But is this not an injustice, one animal against another, and the other is wronged? So what prevents, from a rational standpoint, especially after the text in the Muhammadan Shari'ah came that Allah the Glorious and Exalted will take retribution from the horned for the hornless? What prevents the matter from being for the purpose of manifestation, not to manifest divine justice as an example of divine justice? So this does not support the exclusivity he keeps circling around, saying, “Does divine justice not manifest except by such-and-such?” No one says this. And therefore, I wanted us to return to the statement he is referring to in his criticism, so that we can look at what came before and after it. There is nothing of this statement here that...
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, I will tell the brother, I am the one who extracted the hadith.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And I did not say any of that statement. Here, “The hornless will be avenged from the horned on the Day of Resurrection,” it was reported by so-and-so and so-and-so. I spoke, and on the page I said at the bottom of the page: The hadith is authentic, because it has been authenticated from Abu Hurayrah, traced to the Prophet, through two routes. The first is from al-Ala ibn Abd al-Rahman from his father from... in the wordingSahih Muslim 2582 It was reported by Muslim and al-Bukhari in al-Adab al-Mufrad, and al-Tirmidhi, who said: “A good, authentic hadith.” The other route is It was reported by Ahmad. I said: And its chain is authentic according to the conditions of Muslim. Then I found for it a third route, etc. And in this chapter, there is a report from Abu Dharr and others. So refer to al-Majma' if you wish.
The Messenger of Allah saw two sheep butting each other and said:Sahih al-Bukhari 4802 He said: “No.” He said: I said: This chain is authentic, its narrators are trustworthy. And it was reported by Ibn Abi al-Dunya: “Abu Khaythama narrated to us, Jarir narrated to us from al-A'mash... The research is purely my hadith.”
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : So I did not speak, but the answer to the problem he mentionedThe Shaykh : Very clear.
is that this is a manifestation of the justice of Allah in His creation, even that the horned is avenged from the hornless. But it is not that this is the only way it manifests, as he says. No.
Mashhur: In the chapter on closing the eyes in prayer, he did not cite this report.
The Shaykh : is it
Mashhur: The one he mentioned here, and also in a second location where there may be those who disliked turning in prayer.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Mashhur: Or the chapter on those who permitted turning to the right and left, he also did not cite it.
The Shaykh : He did not cite it.
Mashhur: So...
The Shaykh : It needs to be reviewed.
Mashhur: It needs to be reviewed.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The Shaykh : Excuse me, repeat his name for me.
The questioner : His name isThe Shaykh : Muhammad Ahmad, a compound name, ibn Abd al-Qadir al-Shanqiti al-Qurashi.
The Shaykh : Okay, how old is he?
The questioner : He told me recently that he is reaching eighty-three, or approaching it. He said to me, “I am five years older thanThe Shaykh : Ibn Baz.”
The Shaykh : Ah, he is eighty-three.
The questioner : Approximately
The Shaykh : Yes, that is strange. I do not remember him being in the City when I was there.
The questioner : He says he has been in the City for a long time, but he did not specify the number of years he stayed.
The Shaykh : Okay, what does he say?
The questioner : He says: “In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Peace be upon you, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.”
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner : “I am one who singles you out for opinion and knowledge, and I convey to you my peace. Then he said: It is said thatThe Shaykh : Muhammad Ahmad asks you to pray for him for a good ending. And he says: The hadith in Muslim
Rights will certainly be restored to those entitled to them on the Day of Resurrection, (to the point that) even the hornless sheep will lay claim upon the horned one.
ولتؤدن الحقوق إلى أهلها يوم القيامة حتى يقاد للشاة الجماء للشاة القرناءThe Shaykh : We need to see the statement. What is it? Because...
The questioner : He says that you say that this hadith...
The Shaykh : No problem, where is my statement regarding this hadith mentioned?
The questioner : Well, perhaps he came across it, but he did not mention the source.
The Shaykh : No, he did not mention it to you.
The questioner : No, this paper was given to me by one of the brothers fromThe Shaykh : before the trip.
Another questioner : The hadith is reported in the Sahih, O our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : No problem, it must be reported... I mean, we need to wait now until we see exactly what we said. Where are you remembering it?
Another questioner : In the sixth, or certainly in the fourth.
The Shaykh : It does not respond to the statement thatThe Shaykh : The honorable
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : he is questioning with disapproval.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : That the justice of Allah is not manifested except by executing justice between the horned and the hornless. We did not say this, and no one says it. But this is one of the manifestations of that. So what is the problem with that? And the fact that animals are not subject to religious obligation, yes, they are not subject to it. But is this not an injustice, one animal against another, and the other is wronged? So what prevents, from a rational standpoint, especially after the text in the Muhammadan Shari'ah came that Allah the Glorious and Exalted will take retribution from the horned for the hornless? What prevents the matter from being for the purpose of manifestation, not to manifest divine justice as an example of divine justice? So this does not support the exclusivity he keeps circling around, saying, “Does divine justice not manifest except by such-and-such?” No one says this. And therefore, I wanted us to return to the statement he is referring to in his criticism, so that we can look at what came before and after it. There is nothing of this statement here that...
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, I will tell the brother, I am the one who extracted the hadith.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : And I did not say any of that statement. Here, “The hornless will be avenged from the horned on the Day of Resurrection,” it was reported by so-and-so and so-and-so. I spoke, and on the page I said at the bottom of the page: The hadith is authentic, because it has been authenticated from Abu Hurayrah, traced to the Prophet, through two routes. The first is from al-Ala ibn Abd al-Rahman from his father from... in the wording
Rights will certainly be restored to those entitled to them on the Day of Resurrection, (to the point that) even the hornless sheep will lay claim upon the horned one.
لتؤدن الحقوق إلى أهلها يوم القيامة حتى يقاد الشاة الجلحاء من الشاة القرناءThe creation will take retribution from one another, until the hornless from the horned, and even the ant from the ant.
يقتص الخلق بعضهم من بعض حتى الجماء من القرناء وحتى الذرة من الذرةThe Messenger of Allah saw two sheep butting each other and said:
O Abu Dharr! Do you know
يا أبا ذر أتدري فيما تنتطحانBut your Lord knows, and He will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection.
ولكن ربك يدري وسيقضي بينهما يوم القيامةThe questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : So I did not speak, but the answer to the problem he mentionedThe Shaykh : Very clear.
is that this is a manifestation of the justice of Allah in His creation, even that the horned is avenged from the hornless. But it is not that this is the only way it manifests, as he says. No.
Mashhur: In the chapter on closing the eyes in prayer, he did not cite this report.
The Shaykh : is it
Mashhur: The one he mentioned here, and also in a second location where there may be those who disliked turning in prayer.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Mashhur: Or the chapter on those who permitted turning to the right and left, he also did not cite it.
The Shaykh : He did not cite it.
Mashhur: So...
The Shaykh : It needs to be reviewed.
Mashhur: It needs to be reviewed.
The Shaykh : Yes.
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