Was the magic of the magicians of Pharaoh an illusion or a trick?

The Shaykh : In any case, everything is a matter of scholarly disagreement. What is magic? Magic is of two types: one is agility and sleight of hand, which has no connection to the jinn; and the second type has a connection to the jinn. Yes, that is correct. Agility and sleight of hand are also magic, because they deceive people with unnatural things and make them think it is knowledge, and that is enough. Then a time will come when they will claim for you innate knowledge.

The questioner : Was the magic of the magicians of Pharaoh magic through the deployment of jinn, or was it the other type, which is tricks and deception?

The Shaykh : It appears to be the first type. They bewitched the eyes of people and terrified them, and they brought forth great magic, which is illusion. Yes, that is correct.

The questioner : The movement of the staffs and the like is done through a type of magic.

The Shaykh : Illusion.

The questioner : The application of scientific principles.

The Shaykh : Ah, the light type we mentioned.

The questioner : The subtle type that most people do not know.

The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.

The questioner : Bodies expand with heat, and I use that and explain that there is magic in it, if the people of that time did not know this story?

The Shaykh : That is it.