The Shaykh asked his students about the Station of Ibrahim: when was it moved from its location?
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The Shaykh : We are discussing this here for the sake of study: when was the Black Stone moved from its original location?
The questioner : The Station.
The Shaykh : Pardon me, yes, the Station upon which Ibrahim stood; when was it moved from there?
The questioner : To the best of my knowledge, it was moved during the expansion in the era of King Abdulaziz.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : In the era of King Abdulaziz or something similar to that; that is the limit of my knowledge.
The questioner : It is said to have been in the year eighty-six.
The Shaykh : And before that, where was it?
The questioner : It was near the Ka'bah; this is what I have heard, I have not seen it.
The Shaykh : No, by Allah, I believe it was moved in the era of 'Umar.
The questioner : No, Shaykh, what I know is that if it was returned and then moved again, or if it was moved in the era of 'Umar from one place to another, and then from 'Umar's place to its current place, we do not know. The important thing is that in the era of the Saudi state, during the new expansion, it was moved to its current place; otherwise, it was not in that era, and even...The Shaykh : Al-Shanqiti has a research on it, and he was responded to.The Shaykh : Ibn Hamdan, the author of the manuscript commentary on Tawhid by the author of al-Durr al-Nadid in explaining the Book of Tawhid, responded to him and holds that it is not permissible to move it, and a debate arose among the scholars of the Dawah regarding its return.
The Shaykh : Pardon me, pardon me, he holds that it is not permissible to move it from where?
The questioner : From the place they knew it to be.
The Shaykh : Yes, where is this place?
The questioner : What connected me to the topic is that the place I understood from my reading is the legitimate place at the Black Stone, in its true location at the door of the Ka'bah; that is what I understood.
The Shaykh : I understood you.
The questioner : The writer did not clarify where its place was, and I used to know it, but I do not have a fixed evidence for it; I heard from the Shaykhs that 'Umar moved it, but I do not have evidence for it, I do not know its authenticity.
The Shaykh : So the issue now requires renewed research, and what I know and do not recall otherwise is what I told you just now. Then I heard from some Shaykhs that the one who moved it from its first place was 'Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him), but if you asked me to which specific point he moved it, I am now at a standstill. All my hope and belief is that this place, which is today in this cage, is the place that the later generations inherited from the earlier ones. And now we understand or hear something new, that this was moved in this era, approximately. So, Ali, you remind us of this point, and let us cooperate to uncover the truth of the matter. And Glory is to You, O Allah, and praise; I bear witness that there is no deity but You, I seek Your forgiveness and I repent to You.
The questioner : The Station.
The Shaykh : Pardon me, yes, the Station upon which Ibrahim stood; when was it moved from there?
The questioner : To the best of my knowledge, it was moved during the expansion in the era of King Abdulaziz.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : In the era of King Abdulaziz or something similar to that; that is the limit of my knowledge.
The questioner : It is said to have been in the year eighty-six.
The Shaykh : And before that, where was it?
The questioner : It was near the Ka'bah; this is what I have heard, I have not seen it.
The Shaykh : No, by Allah, I believe it was moved in the era of 'Umar.
The questioner : No, Shaykh, what I know is that if it was returned and then moved again, or if it was moved in the era of 'Umar from one place to another, and then from 'Umar's place to its current place, we do not know. The important thing is that in the era of the Saudi state, during the new expansion, it was moved to its current place; otherwise, it was not in that era, and even...The Shaykh : Al-Shanqiti has a research on it, and he was responded to.The Shaykh : Ibn Hamdan, the author of the manuscript commentary on Tawhid by the author of al-Durr al-Nadid in explaining the Book of Tawhid, responded to him and holds that it is not permissible to move it, and a debate arose among the scholars of the Dawah regarding its return.
The Shaykh : Pardon me, pardon me, he holds that it is not permissible to move it from where?
The questioner : From the place they knew it to be.
The Shaykh : Yes, where is this place?
The questioner : What connected me to the topic is that the place I understood from my reading is the legitimate place at the Black Stone, in its true location at the door of the Ka'bah; that is what I understood.
The Shaykh : I understood you.
The questioner : The writer did not clarify where its place was, and I used to know it, but I do not have a fixed evidence for it; I heard from the Shaykhs that 'Umar moved it, but I do not have evidence for it, I do not know its authenticity.
The Shaykh : So the issue now requires renewed research, and what I know and do not recall otherwise is what I told you just now. Then I heard from some Shaykhs that the one who moved it from its first place was 'Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with him), but if you asked me to which specific point he moved it, I am now at a standstill. All my hope and belief is that this place, which is today in this cage, is the place that the later generations inherited from the earlier ones. And now we understand or hear something new, that this was moved in this era, approximately. So, Ali, you remind us of this point, and let us cooperate to uncover the truth of the matter. And Glory is to You, O Allah, and praise; I bear witness that there is no deity but You, I seek Your forgiveness and I repent to You.
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