(Ibn al-Qayyim’s refutation of the previous claim that the Throne was created before the heavens and the earth) And by Allah, this is not the statement of a scholar, let alone a consensus of all times
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The Shaykh : Ibn al-Qayyim said:
"And by Allah, this is not the statement of a scholar, let alone a consensus of all times"
This is correct, and by Allah, no person says this, let alone that the people have agreed upon it from the time of the Messenger to this day. Now he claims that the people, that the people, that the people have agreed upon it since the time of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) to this day. They have agreed on what? That the creation of the heavens and the earth was before the creation of the Throne. Yes.
"Whoever says this, whoever says this has contradicted the consensus, the authentic report, and the apparent meaning of the Qur'an"
What is the apparent meaning of the Qur'an? That Allah said:[Hud 11:7] at the creation of the heavens and the earth. So the Throne is prior. That is why he said "the apparent meaning of the Qur'an" and did not say "explicit." As for the Sunnah, it is explicit in this that the Throne was created before the heavens.
"So look at what it has led to, so look at what the interpretation of the word of rising above the Throne has led to, with the apparent falsity" where he said that rising above the Throne means dominion.
"And by Allah, this is not the statement of a scholar, let alone a consensus of all times"
This is correct, and by Allah, no person says this, let alone that the people have agreed upon it from the time of the Messenger to this day. Now he claims that the people, that the people, that the people have agreed upon it since the time of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) to this day. They have agreed on what? That the creation of the heavens and the earth was before the creation of the Throne. Yes.
"Whoever says this, whoever says this has contradicted the consensus, the authentic report, and the apparent meaning of the Qur'an"
What is the apparent meaning of the Qur'an? That Allah said:
created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His Throne had been upon water
خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ فِي سِتَّةِ أَيَّامٍ وَكَانَ عَرْشُهُ عَلَى الْمَاءِ"So look at what it has led to, so look at what the interpretation of the word of rising above the Throne has led to, with the apparent falsity" where he said that rising above the Throne means dominion.