Discussion of some issues of terminology.
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The questioner : The mursal and the musnad.
The Shaykh : Every narration.
The questioner : Yes, improve the chain of the mursal and connect it.
The questioner : The opposite, the opposite.
The Shaykh : No, one of them may have presented the chain as connected, and another may present it as mursal, and he says regarding this narrator, "improve his chain."
The questioner : In the second case, even though he made it mursal?
The Shaykh : Even though he made it mursal.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good. So, is the original state of it being mursal?
The Shaykh : No, no, there is no original state here. One looks at the narrators who narrated the hadith. This aligns completely with the shadhdh, the mahfuz, the ma'ruf, and the munkar. The one who narrated the shadhdh is a thiqah, but for example, he narrated it in a way that another thiqah, who is more trustworthy than him, narrates it in a different way. It is important to know what the other way is. The first may have made it mursal and the second connected it, or the first may have connected it and the second made it mursal or 'adil or something similar. It is said regarding the narration of the one who is more preserved, "improve his chain." This does not mean authenticating the chain, but rather generally means that his presentation of the chain is better than others. After this preference, look at the chain and judge according to what it requires, whether authenticating or weakening it.
The questioner : Except in the first case, meaning authenticating the chain.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : Professor, if you permit, we would like to clarify some matters related to the jihad of the Afghan brothers.
The questioner : I am asking about this issue with your permission.
The questioner: Go ahead.
The questioner : Professor, it seems to me that I saw in more than one place in the words of the muhaddithin, specifically in the books of 'ilal, the issue of "improving" (juddah) being used for the mudallis who makes the chain appear connected. I do not know if this is a third meaning or not?
The Shaykh : This is possible, but on the condition that it is clarified that the one who did this act is a mudallis.
The questioner : Ah, ah.
The Shaykh : I mean, this is possible, but in that case, it falls into the hadith.
The questioner : Of course, they intend it for blame, and here they mention "improving" for the mudallis narrator for blame due to its falling away.
The Shaykh : Ah, this is possible.
The questioner : A specific incident, with no generality. When is recourse had to this rule?
The Shaykh : When there is something that contradicts it.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : When there is something that contradicts it.
The questioner : Meaning that the contradictory texts cannot be reconciled except by this rule.
The questioner : Correct, Professor?
The questioner : Meaning it becomes specific.
The Shaykh : No, it will not be that the texts are contradictory; this incident contradicts the texts.
The questioner: Yes.
The questioner : So it becomes specific.
The questioner : Its non-repetition, my teacher, for example?
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : But sometimes the scholars say that even if the same circumstances, the same causes, and the same surrounding factors of the issue recur, it may repeat.
The Shaykh : If there is nothing that contradicts it.
The questioner : Ah, like the woman... who strikes with the duff?
The questioner : Some of the scholars said this is a specific incident.
The questioner : And the woman who wanted to please her neighbors.
The Shaykh : Every narration.
The questioner : Yes, improve the chain of the mursal and connect it.
The questioner : The opposite, the opposite.
The Shaykh : No, one of them may have presented the chain as connected, and another may present it as mursal, and he says regarding this narrator, "improve his chain."
The questioner : In the second case, even though he made it mursal?
The Shaykh : Even though he made it mursal.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good. So, is the original state of it being mursal?
The Shaykh : No, no, there is no original state here. One looks at the narrators who narrated the hadith. This aligns completely with the shadhdh, the mahfuz, the ma'ruf, and the munkar. The one who narrated the shadhdh is a thiqah, but for example, he narrated it in a way that another thiqah, who is more trustworthy than him, narrates it in a different way. It is important to know what the other way is. The first may have made it mursal and the second connected it, or the first may have connected it and the second made it mursal or 'adil or something similar. It is said regarding the narration of the one who is more preserved, "improve his chain." This does not mean authenticating the chain, but rather generally means that his presentation of the chain is better than others. After this preference, look at the chain and judge according to what it requires, whether authenticating or weakening it.
The questioner : Except in the first case, meaning authenticating the chain.
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : Professor, if you permit, we would like to clarify some matters related to the jihad of the Afghan brothers.
The questioner : I am asking about this issue with your permission.
The questioner: Go ahead.
The questioner : Professor, it seems to me that I saw in more than one place in the words of the muhaddithin, specifically in the books of 'ilal, the issue of "improving" (juddah) being used for the mudallis who makes the chain appear connected. I do not know if this is a third meaning or not?
The Shaykh : This is possible, but on the condition that it is clarified that the one who did this act is a mudallis.
The questioner : Ah, ah.
The Shaykh : I mean, this is possible, but in that case, it falls into the hadith.
The questioner : Of course, they intend it for blame, and here they mention "improving" for the mudallis narrator for blame due to its falling away.
The Shaykh : Ah, this is possible.
The questioner : A specific incident, with no generality. When is recourse had to this rule?
The Shaykh : When there is something that contradicts it.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : When there is something that contradicts it.
The questioner : Meaning that the contradictory texts cannot be reconciled except by this rule.
The questioner : Correct, Professor?
The questioner : Meaning it becomes specific.
The Shaykh : No, it will not be that the texts are contradictory; this incident contradicts the texts.
The questioner: Yes.
The questioner : So it becomes specific.
The questioner : Its non-repetition, my teacher, for example?
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : But sometimes the scholars say that even if the same circumstances, the same causes, and the same surrounding factors of the issue recur, it may repeat.
The Shaykh : If there is nothing that contradicts it.
The questioner : Ah, like the woman... who strikes with the duff?
The questioner : Some of the scholars said this is a specific incident.
The questioner : And the woman who wanted to please her neighbors.
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