The Meaning of the Poet's Statement: "This, and the third is the explicit 'above,' with 'bi' (with) and without it, there are two types; one of them is open to interpretation, and the original is the literal meaning alone"

The Shaykh : And let us listen, he says
"This is the third, and it is explicit regarding being above, *** valid with 'min' and without it"
How many are there?
The student: Two types

The Shaykh :"*** two types"
"One of them is that which is open to *** interpretation"
What is the one that is open to interpretation, which is without 'bi'?
"And the *** essence of the truth alone is clarified by explanation"
Meaning, even according to our statement that it is open to interpretation, the original is the literal meaning and not interpretation
"So if someone claims the interpretation of that, the claim *** is not accepted without proof"
If a claimant asserts the interpretation of that and says that the intended meaning of such-and-such is such-and-such, contrary to the original of the wording, then he says it is not accepted, or
"*** the claim is not accepted without proof"
That is, without evidence. I think this is clear from the wording. I think it is clear from the wording that the speech is taken to its literal meaning and original, and the claim of interpretation is not accepted except with evidence
"But the one governed by the preposition ***" with what?
The student: With 'bi' (with)

The Shaykh : With 'bi' (with)
"But the one governed by the preposition is not open to *** interpretation in language and the custom of speech"
Because the conceptual 'above' is a superiority of status, not one that comes with 'min'; 'min' comes with the beginning of a place, so it would mean the place of Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is what?
The student: Above

The Shaykh : Above, and do not say anything other than this